Grenadier

Postby **Aleolus** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:36 am

OK, I just bought a series called Grenadier. It's a bit fanservicy, but I must admit, the idea behind it is probably the closest to a Christian base I have ever seen in an anime. According to the main character, the ultimate battle strategy is to remove your opponents will to fight, without fighting yourself. My understanding of this is that you lavish love, understanding and compassion on them, and eventually they will stop fighting you of your own accord. And what did Christ say in the new testament? Love your enemy as yourself? Something along those lines? And it mounting hot coals on their head?

Postby **Mr. SmartyPants** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:40 am

I've seen some clips of it in AMV Hell 3.

She reloads her revolver by popping ammunition from between her breasts.

'Nuff said.

Postby **Radical Dreamer** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:35 pm

Not only is Ryan's post accurate (I've seen AMV Hell 3 as well), but the idea of resolving things peacefully is not necessarily a Christian one. Buddhism and several other religions teach the same thing. More likely than not, the idea the character portrays was inspired by Buddhism or a branch thereof, especially considering the prominent lack of Christians in Japan.

If you're looking for an anime that presents Christian-like themes without the fanservice, go check out Haibane Renmei instead.

Postby **Nate** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:41 pm

Aleolus wrote:According to the main character, the ultimate battle strategy is to remove your opponents will to fight, without fighting yourself. My understanding of this is that you lavish love, understanding and compassion on them, and eventually they will stop fighting you of your own accord. And what did Christ say in the new testament? Love your enemy as yourself?

BZZT. Thanks for playing, though. The quote comes from Sun Tzu, who was a general in BC China...y'know, "Before Christ?"

"Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence]The Art of War.[/i] Which isn't a Christian book, it's a book of military strategy.

Morality ≠ Christanity

And it mounting hot coals on their head?

I find it interesting that in this day and age that term is taken to mean a form of retribution, like, "Yeah, it'll hurt them and make them angry and confused and yeah!" In the days that was written "mounting hot coals" on someone's head was, from my understanding, a gesture of friendship and goodwill. Not a feeling of vengeance.

Postby **mitsuki lover** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:35 pm

The Art of War can be purchased at any Barnes & Nobles.It's THE classic on
tactical warfare.In one episode of Star Trek:The Next Generation even Picard and
Riker talk about it.Apparently it's required reading at Starfleet Academy!

Postby **Fish and Chips** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:21 pm

mitsuki lover wrote:The Art of War can be purchased at any Barnes & Nobles.It's THE classic on
tactical warfare.In one episode of Star Trek:The Next Generation even Picard and
Riker talk about it.Apparently it's required reading at Starfleet Academy!

Apparently, The Art of War is already suggested reading among our own military ranks.

Only Mitsuki can remain both on topic and off topic simultaneously.

Postby **KhakiBlueSocks** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:20 pm

Getting back on subject, I remember seeing this one on a Newtype USA Disk--

It looks really interesting, even though it does have some fanservice. It looks like there's a pretty solid story behind it.

The female lead really puts you in the mind of Vash from Trigun...except with clevage...

...

Excuse me while I go laugh hysterically at the mental image I just placed in my head...

Postby **Kenshin17** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:54 pm

I liked this one. Will prolly not ever buy it due to the fanservice.

However the fights are cool, specially at the end.

However if you want to see the same coolness, watch Equilibrium, it has the same cool gun action and no fanservice XD

Postby **ilikegir33** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:02 pm

Too much fanservice (and I LIKE Ichigo 100 Percent and 801 TTS Airbats!). Watch Equilibrium or Trigun instead.

Postby **Cap'n Nick** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:39 pm

This show has a lot of things going for it, but nothing that can make up for its tacky fanservice. Alas and alack.

Postby **KhakiBlueSocks** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:34 am

I think Best Buy has the entire 3-disk set for less than $25. I may check it out--Fanservice doesn't really bother me--if the story is good, there are some things I can overlook.

Postby **Eric** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:36 am

Fanservice amuses me. :sweat:

And I could always use another 'girls with guns' series anyways.

Postby **Aleolus** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:47 am

OK, just finished the first 12 eps, is there any more? Or is it just the one season?

My Writing.com Portfolio · Postby **EricTheFred** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:54 pm

The manga, however, is pretty good. I don't mean it doesn't have fanservice, just that it doesn't stop it from being a really fun manga. It sort of reminds me of Trigun, frankly.

Postby **termyt** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:56 am

The story has a lot of redeeming qualities. It a classic redemption story and dives deeply into the paradox that being truly devoted to peace brings to anyone living in a violent world. What is the price of peace?

I enjoyed the show. Most of the fan service was more comical (such as the way the main character reloads her gun) than anything else, although it was a bit heavy-handed at times, too.

I watched it, I enjoyed it, but it is not in my collection – mostly because of the fan service.

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