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Is it ever coming, or is it out already?? i want it...

theres one coming out ? YES!

According to ANN one doesn't exist and probably never will... I assume you were hoping one would?

Saj wrote:Is it ever coming, or is it out already?? i want it...

I have never hear of any plans to make a movie of Samurai champloo.


Col. Roy Mustang

It is a shame, really. I was hoping this thread had news of some sort, as I'd like to see a different ending for the show. Until someone shows me evidence of a movie in the future, I'm changing the thread title.

No, there's not, nor should there be. The Anime was perfectly self-efficient and came to a natural conclusion. A film would most likely just kill it.

But the same could be said of Champloo's older, better sibling Cowboy Bebop, and a movie didn't kill that. Like Bebop, Champloo is mostly episodic with recurring plotlines that come together in the finale. You could insert a movie into the Champloo timeline pretty easily.

It would feel too manufactured. They tied up all the loose ends, reached their destination, polished off the story, then went their separate ways. The last arc of Champloo was plenty awesome enough.

Aside from Mugen and Jin's ability to shrug off massive injuries finally straining credulity to the breaking point and the lingering bad taste of two of the worst filler episodes of the whole series directly before it.

I doubt they'll ever make a movie for it. Doesn't seem like it needs one.

I agree with fish and chips and The Doctor.Also please remember that the Cowboy
Bebop movie Knockin' On Heaven's Door takes place MIDWAY through the series.
There is no need for a Samurai Champloo story at this point since the main gist of the storyline was Fuu going on a quest to find her father,and they did find him.
The only thing a movie could do was to act as a sort of epilogue.

Unlike some here, I think a Samurai Champloo movie wouldn't have to be a bad thing. The last arc worked pretty well as far as climactic fights and wrapping up loose ends, but it rang a bit hollow to me. While there's plenty of ways a film based on the series could go wrong, I'd be interested in seeing it.

You know, both Samurai Champloo and Cowboy Bebop are essentially a few episodes of plot with tons of filler in between. It is odd to think that, given the popularity and critical acclaim of both series.

RedMage wrote:the lingering bad taste of two of the worst filler episodes of the whole series directly before it.

Yes. Those contribute absolutely nothing to the series. Fortunately for me, the samurai that Jin fights was enough to wash the bad taste from my mind.

If it is filler, then it is good filler. Yes, such a thing could conceivably exist. And you people say what you will, I liked the baseball episode.

Now yes, a film would not automatically be a bad thing, but the series has already tied up it's own plot rather nicely. If it's a sequel, it would feel too manufactured after their separate ways, and a prequel is out of the question because none of the main characters had met prior to the first episode. So they'd need to shuffle it somewhere in the middle, in which case we'd just get an extended filler episode.

The series was satisfying and ended on a good note. It's not so much that I don't want a Champloo movie as much as it doesn't really need a movie to begin with.

IF a movie were made I would perfer an prequel about Fuu's father.

Fish and Chips wrote:So they'd need to shuffle it somewhere in the middle, in which case we'd just get an extended filler episode.

Though as you argued, filler doesn't have to be a bad thing. I agree on this account; an episode can be unrelated to the main plot and have value in and of itself. That is what I would hope for in a Samurai Champloo movie: a new story that doesn't so much add to the series as use it in a good way.

All in all, though, I'm just elaborating on a position I don't hold all that strongly. This discussion is pretty much irrelevant anyway, as no film is forthcoming.

Alright then. I'll fold on this condition: if Shinichiro Watanabe has his own initiative for a Samurai Champloo film, sure, I'll trust him (he did mastermind the series, after all). I just don't think milking a good thing for the sake of the fandom is necessarily a good thing, especially where a movie isn't expressly needed. "Quit while you're ahead."

I think a movie would be awsome. Not only would the action and everthing be incredible just like the TV show, but they could even improve on the already great art work of the show.

It would still have to have some connection with the events of the show.Either,as I suggested a prequel dealing with Fuu's father or else a epilogue.The only other idea would be a series of three prequels one each dealing with Fuu,Jin and Mugen up to the time of episode 1.

mitsuki lover wrote:It would still have to have some connection with the events of the show.Either,as I suggested a prequel dealing with Fuu's father or else a epilogue.The only other idea would be a series of three prequels one each dealing with Fuu,Jin and Mugen up to the time of episode 1.

Meh, I have one major issue with any prequel idea. Champloo wraps up its characters pasts pretty tidily already. Jin was a ronin, possibly performing acts of charity along the way, Mugen was a vagrant, possibly performing acts of vandalism, Fuu was a waitress, and her father was in hiding. Not a lot to expand on, nor needs expanding. You might cover specific separate adventures or event in their lives before they all met, but that's all really, and it would risk feeling like more of the same. None of the characters change much over the course of the series, making it more of a character study than character growth, and a prequel just wouldn't add that much we don't already know.

Fish and Chips wrote:Alright then. I'll fold on this condition: if Shinichiro Watanabe has his own initiative for a Samurai Champloo film, sure, I'll trust him (he did mastermind the series, after all). I just don't think milking a good thing for the sake of the fandom is necessarily a good thing, especially where a movie isn't expressly needed. "Quit while you're ahead."

This is true. Cowboy Bebop movie was set between Session #22 and Session #23 and this work well.

I just don't see how they make a Samurai Champloo movie in between a few eps of the tv show. And I feel that it was just milking the series out of the sake of money.


Plus, Shinichiro Watanabe was working with Koji Morimoto and Mahiro Maeda on an anthology anime that is ten short movies. The project started in 2005 and the movie that he is working on is called Twilight World and so far, it hasn't been finish yet.

Col. Roy Mustang

Roy Mustang wrote:Plus, Shinichiro Watanabe was working with Koji Morimoto and Mahiro Maeda on an anthology anime that is ten short movies. The project started in 2005 and the movie that he is working on is called Twilight World and so far, it hasn't been finish yet.

Col. Roy Mustang

...One of these days, I'm going to crack into your information network, Roy. And when I do, then I will be the master.

i think that if a movie was made for the series, it would have to take place somewhere between episodes 23 and 24. the bebop movie did pretty good and i think that if they had the same directors and such, the movie would be pretty good.

Well although I will be in the minority here...I enjoyed Samurai Champloo more then Cowboy Bebop. Not that Bebop is bad, BY NO MEANS! I loved it, but IMHO Champloo was about one notch higher.

*ouch* please stop throwing stones at me

...anyhow, as much as my fanaticism would love to be appeased by a Champloo movie. It would be hard to do so. I always took the ending as just that...an ending. They accomplished their goal. Fuu made peace with her father, and her father was then avenged. Finally Jin and Mugen had their chance to do what they have wanted to do all along. Prove which of them was the best. They both swung...and broke their swords.

I saw this as deeply symbolic. Mugen had a realization that he had met his equal, and Jin's sword was traditionally (and in the series) a representation of his spirit. Therefore, his "spirit" is broken. He doesn't need, or want to fight anymore.

All this being said. The series had great characterization, and honestly could hold its own without fight scenes. The series also had a thread of fate in it, and the three could easily bang into each other again.

Conclusion:
Do I want Watanabe to make a Samurai Champloo movie?

Logic: No, the story finished. It was a good ending.

Fanboy: I LOVE THIS ANIME!! BRING IT ON!!

Sheol777 wrote:Well although I will be in the minority here...I enjoyed Samurai Champloo more then Cowboy Bebop. Not that Bebop is bad, BY NO MEANS! I loved it, but IMHO Champloo was about one notch higher.

*ouch* please stop throwing stones at me

Do not stone this prophet, for he speaks the truth.

I haven't seen a lot of Cowboy Beebop, but based off what I have watched, I still prefer Samurai Champloo, although that may be more personal taste than actual net worth.

Having seen both series, I'm inclined to say they're at about the same level (accounting for the fact that Samurai Champloo is newer). However, I tend to support the latter because I think Cowboy Bebop gets too much credit as a classic, and often fans mindlessly hate anything new.

My enjoyment of both series varied considerably. Both had episodes I found very involving and those that bored me. Since were being iconoclastic here, I may as well say that I don't think either series deserves quite as much critical acclaim as they receive.

On an entirely different topic: welcome to the forums, Sheol777. I believe this is the first interaction I've had with you, but if that post is representative of yours overall I'd be happy to have more.

uc pseudonym wrote:On an entirely different topic: welcome to the forums, Sheol777. I believe this is the first interaction I've had with you, but if that post is representative of yours overall I'd be happy to have more.

Why thank you. Champloo was one of the series that prompted me to get back into anime after being a fringe watcher for years. I am a bit passionate about it.

On a relatated note to the thread. Watanabe's newest project is a short called Baby Blue on the anthology Genius Party.