CAA: Christian Anime Alliance

Well, what do you think? Personally, I hate it! >_<

*screams* AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! ToT This dubbing must be the MOST HORRIBLE one I've EVER ENCOUNTERED!!!! Even worse than Initial D!!!! +_+ T-chan transforms once again into Magical Girl T-chan to fight against this blasphemy!!!! Roarrrrr~ Time to track it down....and shove coconut flavored lollipops into the fake Ruffy's mouth so he can't talk with that scary/ugly voice!!!!!!!!!!! Hey..where is the CAA girl's room so I can change into my Magical Girl outfit??....I forgot my pantyhose. But my Easter Sunday stockings will HAVE TO DO!!! @.@;

Simply put, it's painfully bad. Sucktacular, even.

i've only seen the dubbed but i hate it. for the first 3 episdoes i cringed when i heard luffy speak and now i'm learning they changed Zoro's name and switched Sanji's cigaretes to a lollipop. I mean come on the kids are going to see ppl do it on TV heck i bet most of their parents smoke anway, they've already got it in their head's. Speaking about how much i hate the dubbed i would like to know if anyone knows where i can buy the original version online or in a store doesnt matter to me thx to all who helps me on that

mythmaster wrote:i've only seen the dubbed but i hate it. for the first 3 episdoes i cringed when i heard luffy speak and now i'm learning they changed Zoro's name and switched Sanji's cigaretes to a lollipop. I mean come on the kids are going to see ppl do it on TV heck i bet most of their parents smoke anway, they've already got it in their head's. Speaking about how much i hate the dubbed i would like to know if anyone knows where i can buy the original version online or in a store doesnt matter to me thx to all who helps me on that

A lollipop? Oh for crying out loud that's beyond ridiculously stupid. But then that's 4Kids for you.

Okay, who here voted for "I love it"?


Acceptable changes:

-Removing blood
-Removing vulgar language


Unacceptable changes:

-Super soakers and corkguns?! They're Marines, for crying out loud!
-Changing Marines to Navy. Do they think kids are too dumb to know what "Marines" are?
-Cigarette to lollipop and removing all cigars. Come on, I've seen plenty of kids shows with cigars in them, and it's not like they're trying to "encourage" it or anything. Plus, there are least three or more important characters who are shown with cigars, and when you remove it, you just end up staring and thinking "Why are they talking with their mouth open?"
-Pointless name changing, like Smoker to Chaser and changing all of Luffy's attacks simply because they have "gun" refrences, like Pistol, Gatling (was that changed?), Rifle, and Bazooka (BAZOOKA?! Why in the world would you change that?).
-Horrendously bad dubbing. Luffy's I can get use to, but what in the world is up with Usopp and Sanji's voices? If anything, Sanji should be French, not from Brooklyn.
-Cutting important Arcs. Cutting fillers is understanble, but the Little Garden Arc? You just dug your own grave, 4Kids...
-Changing the theme song. At first, I was fine with it, but after hearing the first two real ones, "We Are" and "Believe", that rap crap downright sucks.

I hate it! It must die! I can't stand to watch the dub.


Although I was surprised with 4Kids' dub of Tokyo Mew Mew. It's not that bad.

Nami has the most decent voice of anyone on the dub.

Evil evil evil evil 4kids dub!!! >_<

It changed it from funny to utery pathetic. Thank alot 4kids, thats just what we needed, crap.

It's Ok but tis nothing compared to the manga...

It's Ok but tis nothing compared to the manga...

Eh? You mean that in a good or bad way? The manga's fine (besides them switching Zoro's name around alot).

And I agree Scribs. OP is tremendously funny and now everything just gets lost in how crappy they've made it.


And now two people say they love it?!

I only hate the Voice of Luffy....I realy like the voice of Zoro and Sanji..but i think Sanji Should be french also.. I voted "I Love It" Because I do and i agree with all the trems you said Myoti...But i dont know what the real One Piece was like...-_-; I wish i saw it..

I only hate the Voice of Luffy....I realy like the voice of Zoro and Sanji..but i think Sanji Should be french also.. I voted "I Love It" Because I do and i agree with all the trems you said Myoti...But i dont know what the real One Piece was like...-_-; I wish i saw it..

I don't know either, but I'm trying to get ahold of the original DVDs.

Myoti wrote:Okay, who here voted for "I love it"?

Don't look at me I LOATH 4kids and their terrible and cheesy dubs. Hearing Pocket Monsters excellent voices being degrated to a raspy smoking voiced main character with annoying high pitched loony toons voices to follow made my eyes twitch. I thankfully haven't seen One Piece's dub, and I don't plan to either. Some things just don't have dubs worth mentioning, most things. Dubs I can tolerate and some even like would be:
InuYasha (I like Richard Cox, Moneca Stori, Kirby Morrow, Kelly Sheridan and Jillian's michaels as Shippou as the show carries on)
Trigun (Vash, Knives and Wolfwood were especially entertaining)
Lupin III (mainly for Zenigata's weird raspiness and always screaming voice, somehow this always seems to amuse me)
But One Piece? Pocket Monsters? Tokyo Mew Mew? No way can I handle those voices and changes to characters, it always goes from best (Japanese) to worst (4kids dubs) I would sooner commit suicide then watch one of these horrific demonic takeovers.

Trigun (Vash, Knives and Wolfwood were especially entertaining)

I dont mean to get off topic, but I despised that dub.

I think this is the worst dub I have ever been cursed to hear...

Strike one: Splicing half-a-dozen episodes into only one episode and removing entire story arcs. (which would likely have to be a first as far as anime dubs go...)

Strike two: Miscasting most of the voice acting, especially Usopp and Sanji.

Strike three: Replacing the opening with some terrible-sounding rap crap that barely counts as "music."

...and that doesn't even get into the pointless and bizarre edits that do nothing but waste time and money (changing the Marines to the Navy, etc.) and overdoing the violence and death-related edits. Heck, Shaman King dealt with plenty of ghosts/spirits/death. I still can't figure out why it got away with far more then One Piece has.

This is by far the worst dub in years, and it's certainly 4kids' worst dub job.

MasterDias wrote:Strike three: Replacing the opening with some terrible-sounding rap crap that barely counts as "music."

Hey, don't diss the opening!

Sure it's horrendous, but it's extremely catchy. It's awesomely bad.

EDIT: I absolutely can't stand 4Kids bashers, especially ones who bash the OP dub.

>< The theme makes me CRINGE!! I don't WANT to hear it in my head because it's "catchy"!!!!

Sorry, beau99, but so far the only 4Kids dub I can STAND is Yu-Gi-Oh!, and I only watch that for Seto, not for anything else.

Luffy's voice is too CHILDISH for a freaking 17-YEAR-OLD BOY! He sounds 13!

And now they've killed Naruto! *shudders*

They should NEVER dub anime!!

Yes, the theme is horrendously catchy. I keep having to switch my mind's radio back to "We Are" and "Kokoro no Chizu" whenever I think of it.

And beau99, the dub is bad. Very bad. Face it.

Felina, Naruto is Viz, not 4Kids.

I dont mean to get off topic, but I despised that dub.

You're entitled to your opinion, and it is off-topic, soooo... whatever...

beau99 wrote:Hey, don't diss the opening!

Sure it's horrendous, but it's extremely catchy. It's awesomely bad.

EDIT: I absolutely can't stand 4Kids bashers, especially ones who bash the OP dub.

Go download and watch the original One Piece opening themes, all 5 of them...
...they are far, far, far superior to an English rap that sounds like it was thrown together in all of 3 minutes.

Granted, I'm not very fond of raps in general, but even if I was, I assure you that I would strongly dislike that. I actually considered the Shaman King english theme catchy, but the One Piece one just grated on my ears. It's the only dub theme song that has caused me to turn down the volume or change the channel when it plays...

Also, I am far from a dub basher. I like dubs actually. However, 4kids has completely butchered One Piece past acceptable levels. If it was only content edits and a changed theme song that people had to worry about, then not as many would be complaining.

I was willing to give 4kids some benifit of the doubt when they announced the Shaman King/Yugioh uncut DVDs and hope that they might finally be trying to appeal to older fans. However, those uncut releases have since disappeared and appear to unlikely be continued. Now, after this One Piece fiasco...well...I doubt that they will ever try to go beyond their demographic of young kids.

MasterDias wrote:However, 4kids has completely butchered One Piece past acceptable levels. If it was only content edits and a changed theme song that people had to worry about, then not as many would be complaining.

I really don't care about the amount of edits they did.

Really, the only 4Kids dub I don't like is YGO.

So I'm really sorry I don't agree.

Okay, I'm curious. I have never seen One Piece, nor had any particular desire to, but I will watch a dubbed episode of it for the sole purpose of judging it. Therefore, I will withhold my vote until I have made my judgement. I will have no clue what's going on, but that shouldn't have any bearing on determining whether the voices are good or not. XD

However, I will add comments on other things.

I dislike it greatly when, as you all have mentioned, multiple episodes get condensed into one. They did this with Sailor Moon, and I hated it.

Would you buy a copy of LOTR in which 50% of the pages were torn out? So then why would you watch an anime in which 50% of the scenes have been cut out? Or even more, if the six episodes combined into one statement is true.

Content edit, well, that kind of sucks, but...can't be helped, considering the cultural differences in our countries. Though I was surprised to hear Naruto yell out "I'll kill you!" on Naruto...I would've expected that line to be changed to "I'll stop you!" or "I'll destroy you!" or Dragonball Z's classic "Prepare to be sent to another dimension!" (which makes me chuckle every time I hear it...sorry, but to quote Crow from MST3K, "when you get blasted with an 80 point, Armor Piercing Energy Blast, you are dead, dead, dead!")

Anyway, I'll put up my opinion shortly.

Though I was surprised to hear Naruto yell out "I'll kill you!" on Naruto...I would've expected that line to be changed to "I'll stop you!" or "I'll destroy you!"

its not that surprising, toonami is probably for the 9-whenever you get tired of it age, and in the Lion King they quite often say "I'll kill you." or "To kill Simba." or something and that's for little kids so its shouldnt be that big of a surpriss

I heartily agree, MasterDias. I actually find the dub theme "catchy" to an extent, but it is absolutely nothing compared to the original (Kokoro no Chizu!).

I really don't care about the amount of edits they did.

Really, the only 4Kids dub I don't like is YGO.

So I'm really sorry I don't agree.

Arlongpark.com. Go to MP3s, download all five theme songs and listen to them, read some of the changes they did in the dub, then get back to us.

nevermind

You're denying us the pleasure of your words? OoO

its not that surprising, toonami is probably for the 9-whenever you get tired of it age, and in the Lion King they quite often say "I'll kill you." or "To kill Simba." or something and that's for little kids so its shouldnt be that big of a surpriss

Why do I keep thinking "political correctness"?

I thought that Shaman King was fairly well done (other than a few wierd voices, like making Chinese guys British O.O ), then they brought out OP and everything went down hill. In fact, 4Kids in general sucks now.
I mean, it seems like they're aiming at the 8 year old female crowd, what with Winx CLub (ugh), Bratz (double ugh), and DoReMi. Well, there's also Mew Mew, but I kinda like that (despite what they did to it...).

I also voted for democracy. YAY! ^^

I saw about five minutes of it, and I honestly couldn't take it. At one time I was really interested in the show, but now I'll have to wait for the unedited DVD's..
If there will ever be any...
Sometimes I think 4Kids does this just to make me angry...

Why do I keep thinking "political correctness"?

Why do you keep thinking of that? and for that matter, what does it mean?