Mr. SmartyPants wrote:Well I'm sure that's gonna annoy some fansub groups. Especially the one already subbing death note.
Mangafanatic wrote:RELEASE ANIME IN THE STATES SHORTLY AFTER IT'S RELEASED IN JAPAN!? WHAT A NOVEL IDEA! Viz is so innovative!
Oh, wait, fansubbers/dubbers have been doing that for ages. XD Honestly, I am quite surprised that it's taken this long for domestic companies to do what fansubbers have been doing for years now.
Yes, welcome, Viz. You're one step closer to catching up with the fans.
Mangafanatic wrote:Oh, wait, fansubbers/dubbers have been doing that for ages. XD Honestly, I am quite surprised that it's taken this long for domestic companies to do what fansubbers have been doing for years now.
TriezGamer wrote:Disclaimer: I do watch fansubs on occasion, I just think that the attitude pressing R1 companies to release faster and faster does not reflect a Christian attitude of patience.
Mr. SmartyPants wrote:It has nothing to do with patience. It's all about marketing and the economy. They want to release them quicker because people will probably buy them. People buying = them making money.
Interesting scheme if you ask me.
TriezGamer wrote:I recognize that as a valid point, and I won't argue. It's just that demanding an R1 release within 3-6 months of the original airing date is a little bit ridiculous in my opinion.
But the impression I often get from people is that of demanding licenses and DVDs as if it were owed to them -- and though it may have looked like it at first, I'm not directing these statements at Mangafanatic, it's just that MF's post reminded me of how much the attitude annoys me.
Itunes, or something like it, would be my guess as to how they'd do it. However, while 1.99 doesn't sound bad for one episode... that seems like its get a little pricey after a while. Hopefully it won't get to the point where someone has to choose between eatting and the next episode of Death Note. XD (CHOOSE FOOD! L ISN'T WORTH IT!)mechana2015 wrote:If they release it over Itunes... I will think about buying it. It really depends on the resolution of the video as to whether I go for DVD or DL.
Mr. SmartyPants wrote:Due to the fact that the consumers are demanding popular titles such as Death Note as soon as they air in Japan (thanks to the internet) the Region-1 Distributors wants to meet these demands before any other company acquires it.
Mr. SmartyPants wrote:Viz also believes that by targeting the fansub audience, they can gain more popularity, leading to more money.
Mr. SmartyPants wrote:During the time when Monster was still airing on Japanese television, that was when I got hooked on it. I'll be quite frank. I did NOT want to wait A few months or years to see the next episodes/whole series. I wanted to finish what I started! I was not going to wait for it to be localized on R1 DVDs, I wanted to finish it, because I found it to be a great series.
Now I don't see anything wrong with that. I think I'm being patient, as I'm patiently waiting for the R1 dvds so I can go purchase them
Mr. SmartyPants wrote:But even with something I haven't seen before. If people tell me that an anime like D.grayman or Yamato Nadeshiko Shichi Henge (Both currently unlicensed as of January 11) are great, and I read a bit about it. I don't want to wait a year or two for it to appear in American on a slow basis that requires me to wait a few months for each dvd. By that time I'll forget what happened in the prior episodes. Thus why I download fansubs of shows I like.
Mr. SmartyPants wrote:Another example: Bleach. I'm not going to wait for the American episodes to reach episode 110. Why should I wait for Adult Swim to reach that episode when in Japan it will be airing that next week?
I honestly don't see myself being too impatient in these situations.
TriezGamer wrote:And this is where I don't think Viz is going to be terribly successful here. For every person willing to pay for a subtitled episode of a popular show, there will be 10 people (I figure this to even be a conservative estimate) who aren't willing to pay, when the fansubbers release shows for free, and even faster than Viz is anyway. If Viz (or any other company) wishes to stay ahead of the fansubbers, they are going to have to be on par, or even ahead of, the Japanese air dates -- and even then, many people will simply opt for the free fansubs.
If you simply ignore the fact that Bleach is airing in Japan, and simply watch what is on CN, then you're still getting one episode a week -- of course, that's assuming CN doesn't stop and start doing re-runs in the middle of the series like they did with Inuyasha.
And this is where I don't think Viz is going to be terribly successful here. For every person willing to pay for a subtitled episode of a popular show, there will be 10 people (I figure this to even be a conservative estimate) who aren't willing to pay, when the fansubbers release shows for free, and even faster than Viz is anyway. If Viz (or any other company) wishes to stay ahead of the fansubbers, they are going to have to be on par, or even ahead of, the Japanese air dates -- and even then, many people will simply opt for the free fansubs.
Ultimately, in the end, we all have our own standards on fansub/dvdsub/dub issues and how we handle them.
Radical Dreamer wrote:Well, that's partially true, yet you must remember that most fansub groups will cease all fansubbing of a series once that series is licensed. As this is the case, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Live-eviL and other groups currently working on Death Note stopped their releases altogether. Viz would end up with the monopoly on Death Note, since they'd be the only legal way (and perhaps the only possible way, if they decide to take action on fansubbers who would be "stealing" their market more directly now) to obtain the show. Just my two cents.
MasterDias wrote:As for the legal thing, I don't remember Viz ever taking action against fansubbers before, although I could have missed something.
Mr. SmartyPants wrote:But you said (or implied) that people who downloaded weekly fansubs were impatient, and that I took minor offense to.
Kai Robin wrote:Give me Death Note, or give me Death! (lets just hope I don't keel over from a heart attack 40 seconds later eh?)
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