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Postby rocklobster » Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:21 am

I was watching the behind the mic shorts on my Miyazaki movies and it seemed like the VA's have a harder time with ADR than traditional approaches. What do you folks think?
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Postby Warrior 4 Jesus » Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:19 am

First explain what 'mic' is and what ADR is and then I might be able to answer your question. Do you mean that Miyazaki's movies are voice acted and then animated, or something different?
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Postby the_wolfs_howl » Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:48 am

If I'm understanding you correctly: I think ADR would be harder, because you have to match the movements of the lips, rather than just talking into the mic at whatever speed and stuff you like.
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:15 am

What's the difference between the traditional method and "ADR"? What does ADR stand for?

Warrior 4 Jesus wrote:First explain what 'mic' is and what ADR is and then I might be able to answer your question.


I don't know what ADR is, but "mic" is just an abbreviation of microphone.
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Postby Cognitive Gear » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:22 am

Radical Dreamer (post: 1216823) wrote:What's the difference between the traditional method and "ADR"? What does ADR stand for?


I don't know what the "traditional" method is, but I looked it up and "ADR" stands for "Automated Dialogue Replacement" or "Additional Dialogue Recording" both of which can be summed up as "dubbing".
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Postby Fish and Chips » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:36 am

You people should all know better than to expect Rocklobster to clarify his own posts.

Not sure it's harder, but ADR definitely has some tricks to it. All original language voice acting is done before the actual animation is drawn. Artists usually watch how the VA's deliver their lines, then animate the characters after their performances. The problem is when these cartoons are exported to foreign countries, few people would bother to go through the (likely) expensive process of re-sync the mouth movements. So ADR works in reverse, the VA's watching the finished product, then acting to match the timing. Very much trail and error.

Tricky, but not necessarily more difficult.
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:52 am

Fish and Chips (post: 1216829) wrote:Not sure it's harder, but ADR definitely has some tricks to it. All original language voice acting is done before the actual animation is drawn. Artists usually watch how the VA's deliver their lines, then animate the characters after their performances.


I actually find that pretty fascinating, since I always used to wonder if animators had to have some sort of acting experience, themselves. It kind of makes more sense, though, for them to observe the voice actor's movements and animate those, rather than think of all of the motions themselves. Interesting.
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Postby Roy Mustang » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:19 am

I'm not sure what is harder, because all anime titles that have been dub in the states have had a ADR production.

Also, the voice actors speak their lines into a microphone, just like actors do in a live action movie.

As Cognitive Gear said, I don't know what the traditional method would be.

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Postby ShiroiHikari » Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:07 am

I think traditionally, the voice acting is done first, like Fish said. At least, that's how they do it in Japan. Don't know about US animation.

I personally think that doing ADR would be way harder, because you can't just act-- you have to match the timing, too.
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