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Postby Fish and Chips » Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:15 pm

Anyone else keeping tabs on this series? It's new as of April 2007. Heard about it through Anime Online.
Wikipedia wrote:An inscrutable and abnormal territory, Hell's Gate, appeared and caused Tokyo to lose its original sky. In response to it, people who possessed special abilities appeared. However, the cost of gaining those abilities is that those people lack almost all human emotions. They are able to coldly murder other people and gained the fear of the populace, as well as the name Contractors. In addition, to satisfy their contract they must each fufill a set of specific conditions unique to each Contractor. Intelligence agencies in countries around the world utilize their Contractors to uncover the secrets of Hell's Gate and engage in violent battles of intelligence information.

I've seen the first episode, and it comes off as spy noir meets the Sci-Fi Channel, and in a good way. Anime News Network only has 13 episodes listed "So far," but I should hope the series will last longer than that. It's the sort of Anime that throws you into a scenario already familiar to the characters (some of them, anyway), and leaves the audience to figure it out for themselves as it progresses. At least, that's what I'm reading into this.

Episode 2 is due later tonight on Japanese television.
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Postby jon_jinn » Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:18 pm

sounds like a pretty interesting anime. though i can probably guess that it will be quite violent. when more episodes come out, i might look into it. then again, that's very shallow coming from me since i say that i will look into a certain anime, and i rarely ever do.
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Postby Fish and Chips » Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:24 pm

If the Anime continues with the trends and pacing that it set with the first episode, I don't forsee violence being a major problem, or at least not graphic violence, although some of the things Contractors have to do to satisfy their contracts range from bizarre to unnerving (one man is shown creating a perfectly symetrical line pattern with rocks on a coffee table, whereas another is forcefully breaking his own fingers. Ouch).
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Postby uc pseudonym » Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:34 pm

I've seen this around, actually, and I like the title. That combined with your recommendation may lead to me trying it out, and if so I'll definitely give my thoughts here.
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Postby jon_jinn » Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:47 pm

another big issue could be the negative, or offensive religious material. the series sounds quite dark and could turn out to be very blasphemous...
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Postby Fish and Chips » Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:51 pm

jon_jinn wrote:another big issue could be the negative, or offensive religious material. the series sounds quite dark and could turn out to be very blasphemous...

Innocent until proven guilty, Jon.

Second episode's out, unsubbed, but apparantly continuing my high expectations of the series (according to Memento's reviews).
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Postby desperado » Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:39 am

Im watching it, a lot of good shows are showing up this seasion brave generation gurren langen and (yes i know its fanservicy but it doesnt phase me) airontou as well as darker then black.
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Postby Doubleshadow » Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:39 pm

Looks interesting, I'll try it.
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Postby jon_jinn » Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:36 pm

Fish and Chips wrote:Innocent until proven guilty, Jon.


just a logical guess. :sweat:
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-John Piper

"The very One from Whom we need to be saved, is the One Who has saved us."
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"All of Christian life is ceaseless worship of God the Father, through the mediatorship of God the Son, by the indwelling power of God the Spirit, doing what God commands in Scripture, not doing what God forbids in Scripture, in culturally contextualized ways, for the furtherance of the Gospel, when both gathered for adoration, and scattered for action, in joyous response to God's glorious grace."
- Mark Driscoll

"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
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Postby Fish and Chips » Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:18 am

Watched episode 2 last night. I am definitely following this series now.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:27 pm

I've seen the first episode but not the second. It failed to grab me but at the same time it didn't feel like it had really introduced itself properly (and some of the McGuffins do seem potentially interesting), so I'll follow it a bit further before making a decision.
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Postby Fish and Chips » Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:31 pm

uc pseudonym wrote:I've seen the first episode but not the second. It failed to grab me but at the same time it didn't feel like it had really introduced itself properly (and some of the McGuffins do seem potentially interesting), so I'll follow it a bit further before making a decision.

The first two episodes are pretty much one continuous story, so the second picks up some of the slack from the first.
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Postby Roy Mustang » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:12 pm

Darker Than Black has been pick up by FUNimation.


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Postby jon_jinn » Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:06 pm

now would be an excellent time to begin some series discussion.
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- Abraham Kuyper

"God the great Creator of all things doth uphold, direct, dispose, and govern all creatures, actions, and things, from the greatest even to the least, by His most wise and holy providence, according to His infallible foreknowledge and the free and immutable counsel of His own will, to the praise of the glory of His wisdom, power, justice, goodness, and mercy."
- Westminister Confession of Faith (Chapter 5, Section 1)

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- John Piper

"Grace is the pleasure of God to magnify the worth of God by giving sinners the right and power to delight in God without obscuring the glory of God!"
-John Piper

"The very One from Whom we need to be saved, is the One Who has saved us."
- R.C. Sproul

"All of Christian life is ceaseless worship of God the Father, through the mediatorship of God the Son, by the indwelling power of God the Spirit, doing what God commands in Scripture, not doing what God forbids in Scripture, in culturally contextualized ways, for the furtherance of the Gospel, when both gathered for adoration, and scattered for action, in joyous response to God's glorious grace."
- Mark Driscoll

"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
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Postby uc pseudonym » Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:43 pm

Since my last post I've kept up with the series and enjoyed it overall. However, I am growing somewhat impatient over the continual episodic plots. They are interesting on varying levels, but what I want to know are the more important things about the world in which the anime exists. Hopefully this most recent story arc will be enlightening.
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Postby Fish and Chips » Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:19 pm

I thought the first six episodes were good (although November 11 should have been a basilisk), but 7 and 8 were sub par. And I still need to watch 9-12.

Since the series just passed the half-way mark, I'm assuming the plot to take a less subtle, more active role. My guess is that Hei's sister is a big deal in this line of thinking.
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Postby jon_jinn » Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:43 pm

the last episode i saw was episode 8 so i think that i need to do some minor catching up on. however, i do remember that episode 8 left me with a cliffhanger of sorts...
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"The very One from Whom we need to be saved, is the One Who has saved us."
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"All of Christian life is ceaseless worship of God the Father, through the mediatorship of God the Son, by the indwelling power of God the Spirit, doing what God commands in Scripture, not doing what God forbids in Scripture, in culturally contextualized ways, for the furtherance of the Gospel, when both gathered for adoration, and scattered for action, in joyous response to God's glorious grace."
- Mark Driscoll

"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
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Postby ilikegir33 » Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:54 am

BTW Funimation licensed this show. It looks interesting...
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Postby uc pseudonym » Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:03 pm

Fish and Chips wrote:(although November 11 should have been a basilisk)

I'm fine with his power so long as he comes back later and uses it more extensively. This niftiness of his code name makes me forgiving. On a related note, Havoc from those episodes has been my favorite minor character so far.

ilikegir33 wrote:BTW Funimation licensed this show.

It's been mentioned in the thread. Just a friendly reminder that we could all probably read more carefully.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:17 pm

I am pleased to report that episode 12 was complicated enough that I didn't understand everything. Explanatory plots will soon follow, one would hope. If anyone here did understand everything, I would very much like to speak with you.
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Postby Fish and Chips » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:43 pm

uc pseudonym wrote:I am pleased to report that episode 12 was complicated enough that I didn't understand everything. Explanatory plots will soon follow, one would hope. If anyone here did understand everything, I would very much like to speak with you.

Still trying to track down episodes after 10, where my source seems to have quit.
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Postby LaFlecha » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:37 am

Fish and Chips wrote:Still trying to track down episodes after 10, where my source seems to have quit.


They are out. I was mad when all the avi subbers stopped, but a new group did 11 and 12, and another MKV group did HD for 13/14 and it's a really good encode.
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