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Postby ilikegir33 » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:47 pm

So does anyone else want to see this movie? It looks awesome. I'm gonna see it probably today.
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Postby K. Ayato » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:14 pm

I saw it with my sister and one of her friends. I won't spoil it, but the movie is nothing like the epic poem it was supposedly based on. Very big disappointment.
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Postby LadyRushia » Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:45 pm

I
AM
BEOWULF

and

THIS
IS
SPARTA!

Hmm, which one is better?

I dunno, the movie looks pretty cool, but I've never read the poem, so yeah.
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Postby ~darkelfgirl~ » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:12 pm

Yep. It is way different from the epic poem (I'm still reeling from the study guide). Like usual, hehe.
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Postby K. Ayato » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:49 pm

Should you go see this movie, be forewarned in that it REALLY pushes the limits of the PG-13 rating in terms of violence and nudity. And the fact that it's CG doesn't make it any better. It's still that extreme in those terms.
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Postby Etoh*the*Greato » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:16 am

I wouldn't say it was pushing the limits of PG13 so much as the ratings board saw "Hmm, Cartoon" and decided that no cartoon should never NOT be for kids. But yes, this movie should be rated R, fair warning.

As for the interpretation, I rather liked it. They added some interesting themes and expanded on others. Is it the original saga? Nah, not really. I found it utterly enjoyable, though. It seemed to be written from the perspective of, "this is what really happened and then the story changed as it was told and retold."
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Postby Maledicte » Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:21 am

I didn't mind the story so much. It's just the way that it was told I didn't like.

What's really irritating to me is that for such a vast 3D animated movie, the main action only took place in one of two areas. A dining hall and a cave.
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Postby Technomancer » Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:14 am

I came across an interesting essay on the new movie:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/kamiya/2007/11/20/beowulf/
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Postby ilikegir33 » Wed Nov 21, 2007 7:02 pm

K. Ayato wrote:Should you go see this movie, be forewarned in that it REALLY pushes the limits of the PG-13 rating in terms of violence and nudity. And the fact that it's CG doesn't make it any better. It's still that extreme in those terms.


Your advice is totally right. I saw it and it was AWESOME! It wasn't the violence that was bad, it was the nudity. Angelina Jolie. In nothing but liquid gold. That's just...weird.
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Postby Tenshi no Ai » Wed Nov 21, 2007 7:31 pm

Of course it has to be Angelina Jolie :eyeroll:

Still, I figured it wouldn't quite be like the poem, but still wanna see it :)
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Postby K. Ayato » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:37 pm

Don't forget those spiked heel things attached to her feet.
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Postby Etoh*the*Greato » Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:52 pm

Tenshi no Ai wrote:Of course it has to be Angelina Jolie :eyeroll:

Still, I figured it wouldn't quite be like the poem, but still wanna see it :)


Of course. She's the archetypal temptress that draws you away from your lady!
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Postby Tenshi no Ai » Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:48 am

Etoh*the*Greato wrote:Of course. She's the archetypal temptress that draws you away from your lady!


Personally, with Grendal being a dragon like monster (from what I remember) I always thought of his mother to being some cranky, naggy dragon-thing^^
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Postby Puguni » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:54 am

Tenshi no Ai wrote:Personally, with Grendal being a dragon like monster (from what I remember) I always thought of his mother to being some cranky, naggy dragon-thing^^


LOL, nice image. "Do your homework! Go to your room!"

I didn't see the movie, but I laughed when in the trailer Beowolf said, "I am Beowolf," because it felt like the, "This is Sparta," line from 300.
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Postby Felix » Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:00 pm

I. AM. BEOWULF!! XD

I just saw it tonight. It wasn't terrible, but I was kinda dissapointed, because it felt like it really tarnished the spirit of the poem. But all well, it was still pretty cool, except for the aformentioned nudity, which was quite shocking to say the least. The animation was quite gorgeous. Many times I forgot that it was even animated.
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Postby KBMaster » Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:57 pm

My english class might go to see that. It's doubtful, however, since my teacher learned of Angelina's Jolie's nekkedness.

I, personally, will not see it unless a.) I can go on a school field trip for a low price or b.) it's on TV and nothing better is on.
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Postby Etoh*the*Greato » Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:14 am

Puguni wrote:LOL, nice image. "Do your homework! Go to your room!"

I didn't see the movie, but I laughed when in the trailer Beowolf said, "I am Beowolf," because it felt like the, "This is Sparta," line from 300.

They totally chopped that whole line wrong in the commercials. When it's in the context of what scene it's really the culmination of a really cool speech.

Actually I think Grendel was pretty close to how he was described in the saga. Granted I haven't read the dang thing since World Lit I four years ago, but still.
Dragon meant different things to them than it does to us. Or at least it wasn't restricted to what we think of as dragons. Also, she did change forms as I recall. They hinted at her being a big reptilian dragon thing in the first scenes she was in where you were only getting a reflection. She was only humanoid for her dealings with humans. The second son also transformed. Grendels problem was that he appeared to be stuck between the two forms.
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Postby mitsuki lover » Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:51 am

From the poem it would appear that Grendel and his mother were unthinking beasts than anything else.I would rather believe that they were something like our Big Foot in appearance.
Yes they did steal from the Danes,but they had no sense of the value of what they had stolen.
Over all though the importance of Beowulf is about the title character's heroism and self sacrifice.
Note:The dragon is from the end of Beowulf's life when he kills a lizard that is terrorizing the kingdom.
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Postby Doubleshadow » Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:54 pm

I was unhappy when I saw this. I loved Beowulf, and I knew this would be another utter perversion of literature in the name of a easy buck.
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Postby Danyasaur » Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:57 pm

Personally, I grew up reading some Beowulf - one book in particular - and from everything that I've heard of this movie I find it a disgusting perversion of Beowulf's character. I don't think I ever want to see it, even if 'other' parts are good.

Another childhood memory smashed underneath the careless hand of Hollywood....
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Postby mathgrant » Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:50 pm

Coincidentally, this movie was brought up in our youth group. Nobody seemed to think high school kids needed to be seeing it. XD Unfortunately, they had to. The teachers had no clue about the sexual crap. x.x
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Postby Etoh*the*Greato » Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:04 pm

Not really any sexual content. Just... Innuendo and lots of goldpaint covered Angelina Jolie.
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Postby Myoti » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:38 am

As for the interpretation, I rather liked it. They added some interesting themes and expanded on others. Is it the original saga? Nah, not really. I found it utterly enjoyable, though. It seemed to be written from the perspective of, "this is what really happened and then the story changed as it was told and retold."

This is how I preferred looking at it, and in that mindset I thought the movie was great; unfortunately everyone else I know that went to see it (and apparently many people here) on stuck on disliking because it didn't "follow the story" or, as some said, "tarnished/perversed the meaning of the poem."

Correct if I'm wrong, but wasn't the original story changed numerous times (mostly by the church)? How exactly then would anyone know what the actual "meaning" of the story was (if any)?

Actually I think Grendel was pretty close to how he was described in the saga.

Grendel was never really flat-out described; someone in one of our High School Lit. classes did a project where he made basically a collage of "hideous things" around a dark form, stating it as Grendel to go along with how his appearance was never totally told to us.

But yes, Grendel still seemed pretty well-handled.
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