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Postby ChristianKitsune » Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:45 pm

Nobuhiro Watsuki's newest project JUST came out a month ago... YAAAY!

So, who has read it?! I haven't gotten a chance to read it, but I did buy it! ^_^

The artwork looks pretty cool! *huggles NW's awesome inking skills*
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:50 pm

I haven't read anything past what little was in vol. 28 of Kenshin. XD; I doubt I'll get started on this series though, since I really can't afford to get hooked on another long series. Someday, maybe! XD
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Postby MasterDias » Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:33 pm

It's not exactly a long series, or at least, not as long as Kenshin. It's only ten volumes.
I read a bit of it. Not very original, but I figure that it's probably a decent series.
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Postby soul alive » Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:39 pm

This is on my list of series to look into eventually. My dorm room and my pocket book dictate that I hold off until another couple of series that I'm currently pursuing are completed. T_T

On a related note, does anyone know when the one shot manga about Yahiko is coming out?
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:34 am

soul alive wrote:On a related note, does anyone know when the one shot manga about Yahiko is coming out?


I think it was supposed to show up in the August issue of Shounen Jump. Unfortunately, I don't subscribe to that magazine (the only Shounen Jump manga I read is Kenshin, and it's not even serialized in there XD), and I didn't have any money when it came out to simply buy it off the shelf.

Now I wish I had read the scans that I found for it some time ago; but, in not wanting to spoil anything in the series at the time, I neglected them. :( Hind sight is 20/20, they say. XD
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Postby meboeck » Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:07 pm

I read the first volume of Buso Renkin, and it looks pretty good. It has some elements that are rather cliche, and there are parts that really remind me of Bleach, but it still looks good enough to check out the next volume. I am very curious as to how the problem presented toward the end of the volume will be resolved.
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Postby Animus Seed » Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:08 pm

I was worried when I first heard the title it would be a wanna-be Fullmetal Alchemist, but really it's not all that similar at all.
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Postby rurouninaruto » Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:33 pm

I think NW has slacked off artwise. Now his art is just average, while Rurouken's artwork was great.

Doesn't look original to me. I think is kinda copys FMA.
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Postby ChristianKitsune » Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:22 pm

wow lots of mixed feeligns on it...^^;

well i think it's a hard leap for him. He went from Samurai and action. To fantasy/action...
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Postby uc pseudonym » Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:24 pm

Having read fivish volumes, I would say that it is a decent shonen manga but doesn't really stand out. Notice that I don't say it is derivative (though it shares name similarities to Fullmetal Alchemist and seems oddly like some other series I don't think it is just a ripoff). There is simply nothing that impressed me incredibly.
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Postby Xiao-Mei » Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:35 pm

I really liked it. Some aspects of it copied FMA (I mean, come on? How many people would even give alchemy a second glance if it weren't for Arakawa-sensei?), and Hanabusa = Lust wannabe. Still, it was good.
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Postby jon_jinn » Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:26 pm

Xiao-Mei wrote:I really liked it. Some aspects of it copied FMA (I mean, come on? How many people would even give alchemy a second glance if it weren't for Arakawa-sensei?), and Hanabusa = Lust wannabe. Still, it was good.


i know. and they even copied the homuculus as well.

but anyways, i first found out about this manga when i was playing as the main character in my jump superstars game. i thought he was pretty cool and decided to check out the manga but i couldn't find it anywhere because i had no idea what manga he was from. and then, i saw one of the busou renkin volumes (original japanese format) at one of my bookstores. though it was in japanese, all i could do was look at the pictures. but then, i was able to figure out that it was titled busou renkin. and then, i read two volumes of it before it was translated by shonen jump and decided it wasn't that good. even the reviews didn't it give it that high ratings.
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Postby meboeck » Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:55 pm

rurouninaruto wrote:Doesn't look original to me. I think is kinda copys FMA.


Actually, I see more similarities to Bleach than to FMA. Not in the bad guys or the main plot, but in the relationships of the good guys. Namely, the main girl, whose name I can't remember.
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Postby Animus Seed » Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:19 pm

Xiao-Mei wrote:I really liked it. Some aspects of it copied FMA (I mean, come on? How many people would even give alchemy a second glance if it weren't for Arakawa-sensei?), and Hanabusa = Lust wannabe. Still, it was good.


Lots of stories used alchemy and homonculi before Fullmetal. It was the "Armor" in the title that threw me.
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Postby MasterDias » Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:49 pm

Animus Seed wrote:Lots of stories used alchemy and homonculi before Fullmetal. It was the "Armor" in the title that threw me.

Hence why Viz didn't bother translating the title. Although it was commonly called Busou Renkin pre-licensing as well so...
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Postby Doubleshadow » Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:20 pm

Viz you say? I can't believe I didn't realize who liscensed it. I plan on getting a better look at the series before I buy it, but I definitely plan to try it.
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Postby Kkun » Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:54 am

I want to read this because I'm such a huge Rurouni Kenshin fan. I enjoy Watsuki's work greatly.
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Postby jon_jinn » Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:11 pm

meboeck wrote:Actually, I see more similarities to Bleach than to FMA. Not in the bad guys or the main plot, but in the relationships of the good guys. Namely, the main girl, whose name I can't remember.


oh you mean how that girl ends up giving the main character his powers. just like how ichigo gets his powers from rukia?

Kkun wrote:I want to read this because I'm such a huge Rurouni Kenshin fan. I enjoy Watsuki's work greatly.


well, i'm not sure if you'll enjoy the manga then. other than the art similarities, you won't find much in common.
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Postby ChristianKitsune » Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:42 pm

J_J put spoilers up please....

I found A LOT of similarities...especially with Watsuki's latest Kenshin volumes and this one.

I don't think Watsuki copied purposefully...and that happens a lot of time in any genre...I don't think there is really anything original anymore...
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Postby meboeck » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:08 pm

ChristianRonin wrote:I don't think Watsuki copied purposefully...and that happens a lot of time in any genre...I don't think there is really anything original anymore...


I think it's especially difficult in this type of shonen manga. It's like the shonen version of the magical girl genre. Guy somehow ends up with powers. Guy ends up with misterious helper. Guy's close friends are put in danger. Guy uses powers to save friends and then the world. There are also certain little "episodes" that are always bound to happen. Like I said, I think there are some good creative points to Buso Renkin, but there are a lot of things that fit pretty well into the mold. Maybe a little too much. But for now I plan to continue reading.
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Postby jon_jinn » Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:22 pm

ChristianRonin wrote:J_J put spoilers up please....


i don't believe there's a need to put up spoilers since these same facts are quoted in both the bleach anime and manga reviews.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:51 pm

I think that in this case jon_jinn is right: what he said was nothing you wouldn't learn after the first chapter, unless you were referring to something other than what I am assuming. Spoiler tags are to be used for anything that would ruin the plot of a story, reveal a secret, or otherwise negatively impact the reading experience for others. But not every piece of information must be hidden.
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Postby Mave » Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:23 pm

I never thought it copied FMA as (at least to me) Watsuki's presentation is quite different from Arakawa's approach. Besides, I knew Buso Renkin a year or two before I did FMA.

I do agree though that there are similarities between Ichigo/Rukia and Muto/Tokiko. That doesn't bother me. Strangely enough, what bothers me are really how weird the villians(??) are. I thought I would have seen every strange idea conceived on this planet blessed by the wonderful sunrays our Good Lord provides but I find it rather bizarre to see....

[spoiler] some dude to have a moustache that resembles a butterfly and to see another running around with a single piece of underwear, wearing a butterfly mask and pwning everyone in his path. I find it disturbing that I find the latter somewhat embarassing and awesome at the same time. My ability to comprehend this bizarre design is a little taxed. LOL [/spoiler]

I know I know...I've mentioned this before but I'm still get thrown off everytime I see that. Alright, this is the last time I'm bringing it up. Promise.
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Postby jon_jinn » Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:26 pm

yes, i agree. the villians in busou renkin are quite oddballs.
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Postby Xiao-Mei » Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:34 pm

The villains are hilarious, in my opinion... wait until you see what the main villains has on later! I laughed for like five minutes!
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Postby Mave » Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:01 pm

Xiao-Mei wrote:The villains are hilarious, in my opinion... wait until you see what the main villains has on later! I laughed for like five minutes!


I haven't seen anything further than Volume 3 so I can only imagine what could be crazier. :sweat:
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Postby jon_jinn » Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:52 am

Xiao-Mei wrote:The villains are hilarious, in my opinion... wait until you see what the main villains has on later! I laughed for like five minutes!


hmmm...i'm starting to get scared. JK. :sweat:
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Postby Tommy » Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:11 am

I read Volume 1. Nice story Watsuki's got here, but it has nothing on Kenshin.

I find it nothling like FMA. Alchemy is used completely different and the only similarities between the Homunculi and FMA and BR, is the name of the speices. I would like to see the conclusion of this story.
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Postby ChristianKitsune » Sat Sep 09, 2006 12:18 pm

okie sorry J_J I didn't mean to be rude... It seemed like a spoiler to me...*whistles*

Mave those bad guys DO Sound "interesting" to say the least....>_> <_<
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Postby jon_jinn » Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:19 pm

ChristianRonin wrote:okie sorry J_J I didn't mean to be rude... It seemed like a spoiler to me...*whistles*


it's all good. :thumb:
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