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Amy Winehouse is dead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:05 pm
by fermy6
Im really sad about what happened to her......She never asked for this, but her choices have let her down this road

May this be evidence of the dangers of drugs:(

PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:33 pm
by Yuki-Anne
Sad, but not unexpected. :(

PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:39 pm
by TopazRaven
Should I feel bad that I don't really know who that is? Any other way I'm sorry she died. :(

PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:53 pm
by Xeno
This probably is going to come across as incredibly insensitive, but:

They tried to make her go to rehab
But she said, "No, no, no"

PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:01 pm
by Cognitive Gear
What a tragic loss of life and talent.
TopazRaven (post: 1492356) wrote:Should I feel bad that I don't really know who that is? Any other way I'm sorry she died. :(

She's a British Soul and R&B singer-songwriter who had quite a voice. Unfortunately, she was also a drug addict.

Xeno (post: 1492357) wrote:This probably is going to come across as incredibly insensitive, but:

They tried to make her go to rehab
But she said, "No, no, no"

It does. She struggled with depression, self-harm, alcohol, drug addiction, and eating disorders. Drug addiction is a powerful force, and arguably makes some powerless to stop unless something dramatic happens. Yes, she did drugs, and yes, it probably resulted in her death. No, that doesn't give us the right to judge, or even to insinuate that she deserved it.

EDIT: Did some research, and discovered that she apparently had previously had some success in fighting these issues.
[quote="wikipedia"]In an interview released in June 2009 Winehouse's father said the singer was in a drug replacement programme. He said she was gradually recovering but that heavy drinking was causing "slight backward steps". A documentary shot early in 2009 shows Winehouse apparently intoxicated according to a newspaper report.[159] Pictures published by a magazine in July 2009 upon her return to the United Kingdom from her extended stay in St. Lucia appeared to show that Winehouse had gained weight and that her complexion was improved.[160] In an October 2010 interview Winehouse said she had been drug-free for three years, saying "I literally woke up one day and was like, 'I don’]

Apparently this was a relapse.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:08 pm
by Okami
I found out due to TWLOHA's latest blog...

"And then with the news of the death of Amy Winehouse, we pause to say and remember that Amy was a person. She was more than a voice, more than a star, more than an addict. She was somebody's daughter, somebody's friend. Our hearts are heavy for her loved ones today."

Truer words couldn't be said. We all have our struggles. It's not our place to judge because someone's might be different than our own.... We need to use tragedy to remind ourselves that life really is fragile, and we ought to use the broken times to let strengthen us to keep pressing on.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:14 pm
by Jingo Jaden
fermy6 (post: 1492319) wrote:Im really sad about what happened to her......She never asked for this, but her choices have let her down this road

May this be evidence of the dangers of drugs:(


Not to pour salt on the grave, but doing heavy drugs is pretty much asking for it.

That being said, she had an amazing talent and I am sad to see her pass away.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:16 pm
by Yuki-Anne
She really was a brilliant musician. Most people only remember her for "Rehab" and the myriad of drug pictures, and forget just how talented she actually was.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:39 pm
by Psycho Molos
Xeno (post: 1492357) wrote:This probably is going to come across as incredibly insensitive, but:

They tried to make her go to rehab
But she said, "No, no, no"


LOL Well, after seeing "Soul Surfer" in the theatre, I joked to a coworker about it possibly being in bad taste if they had that "Shark In the Water" song in the soundtrack... :P

PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:10 pm
by ADXC
She just joined the 27 club.....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club

PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:32 pm
by Shao Feng-Li
Huh, not very surprised at all. It's too bad she threw her self away like that. I honestly had no idea she really had talent. The only song she ever had on the radio was the "Rehab" one.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:45 pm
by mysngoeshere56
I thought the drug overdose thing was just a rumor? I heard that they don't really know how she died yet... Or has the drug overdose been confirmed by now?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:00 am
by Xeno
mysngoeshere56 (post: 1492377) wrote:I thought the drug overdose thing was just a rumor? I heard that they don't really know how she died yet... Or has the drug overdose been confirmed by now?


It really is unconfirmed so far. Just insensitive people like myself like to make knee-jerk decisions on what caused it, and the whole thing with that rehab song just kinda goes hand-in-hand with an overdose.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:19 am
by Makachop^^128
I feel dumb v.v who is this? >.<

Edit:
Never mind I looked her up I know her music I just didn't know I guess thats who it was >.>

PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:10 am
by Sheenar
The lack of sympathy and compassion from many people for this young woman makes me very sad. :( A friend of mine said it well:

"The lack of sympathy for drug addiction is so disheartening. The told-you-so mentality that is so prevalent (per the status updates I've been reading) makes me want to cry. Addiction should be taken seriously and not mocked."
Seriously, people. Have some compassion.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:13 am
by TopazRaven
I hope I didn't sound like I was being insensitive. I just really never heard of her before. I think I heard some of Rehab before, but that's about it. I'll have to look up some of her other stuff now. Any loss of life is a trajedy of course, I'm also saddened by the lack of care. :(

PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:52 am
by rocklobster
There's always a little of that in her case, Topaz. The same thing happened when Kurt Cobain died. I remember there were a lot of insensitive people at my school who commented on it, saying some pretty mean things about it.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:58 am
by fermy6
About the whole Rock Star 27 club.......Do you guys think its a real curse who just coincidence (I watched the Hollywood curses thing on E!)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:06 am
by mechana2015
Coincidence. I'm pretty sure you could compile a list of stars from other ages too if you really felt like it, but having Cobain and Hendrix top this particular list brings the most attention here.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:11 am
by ShiroiHikari
Well, this is sad, but I cannot say I am surprised or shocked.

If anything this should provide yet another example of how whatever techniques they use in rehab are ineffective and don't work.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:16 am
by Xeno
Sheenar (post: 1492407) wrote:The lack of sympathy and compassion from many people for this young woman makes me very sad. :( A friend of mine said it well:

"The lack of sympathy for drug addiction is so disheartening. The told-you-so mentality that is so prevalent (per the status updates I've been reading) makes me want to cry. Addiction should be taken seriously and not mocked."
Seriously, people. Have some compassion.


Want to make a quick point to this. It's not that I'm unsympathetic to persons with drug or alcohol addiction. Those are very real things that have to be battled and they ruin the lives of the people taking them and the people around them. However, when someone releases a top 40 pop song about how they refuse to go to rehab because they don't have the time, and that their daddy's opinion is that they don't have a problem, that makes my sympathy go away if that was the cause of the death.

Is it tragic? Yes, because a talented (or even if she wasn't talented) young woman had died. Am I required to feel heartbroken about it? No, I don't think I am, because if you have a problem, acknowledge that you have a problem, and fail to seek help for it, why should I feel sorry? If there is a middle ground, where she was trying to get back on her feet, going to rehab and just kept falling off the wagon every so often then that's different also, I can sympathise with that.

Ultimately though, she, just like any other "big star" who has died of an overdose will be scrutinized.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:37 pm
by Midori
Um, I'm pretty sure you all know what direction we don't want this thread heading toward. (hint: the fighting direction.)

Furthermore, while I make no judgements as to whether scrutinization is good, I will say that this thread is not for it. Bringing moral discussions into a thread about someone who has just died almost always ends up destroying the thread and making people sad. So don't.