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Chi?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:54 am
by Sparx00
Does chi exist? I've heard some people say that chi a real force and that everybody has it. Also what does it do anyways? And if it's something that we have, how come the knowledge of how to use it been passed down through generations?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:09 am
by Midori
Chi (pronounced "ki" by the way) is probably not real unless you can make it correspond to some scientific principle. At any rate, it definitely can't give you any special physical powers like in anime. The closest things I can think of would be the focus of your mind (what you're thinking about) or your emotional "aura" you exude to other people (through subtle body language, facial expressions, etc.), which entirely depends on your personality and has little to do with real power.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:14 am
by Atria35
Okay, Chi (or qi) is basically the "life energy" in a living thing. The Western equivalent is the "spirit" or "soul", though it's not entirely an accurate description.

"Qi" is an energy that is a part of everything and links everything together, much like the Force does in Star Wars. The different bits of qi work together to make a functioning being.

The last question sounds like you're thinking of Fung Shui, where practitioners beleive they can change the qi of a place by moving things and objects around. Well, certain directions and objects are associated with certain qi energies, much the same way as directions are often associated with elements. So (purely example, I have no real working knowledge of Fung Shui) moving a globe (travel qi) into a direction associated with travel qi would make the person in that room want to travel and travel often.

The knowledge of how to use it has been passed down much like language has been passed down- it's something we have and we pass down the knowledge of how to use it.

Does qi exist? It can neither be proved nor disproved.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:26 am
by Hiryu
From what I've seen, chi is related to astral projection, psychic abilities,mind body spirit connection,acupuncture, feng shui and martial arts.

Chi is your life force. Everything has chi and we are all connected to everything by it.

Take feng shui for example. The color, shape, and location of objects you place around you can either slow, redirect, or accelerate the chi you possess.

As for whether it's true or not, I cannot prove nor disprove it's existence. It's vaguely possible, though.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:02 am
by Shao Feng-Li
I think there are some truthful elements to it, but overall I think it's just bunk.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:24 am
by Rusty Claymore
I study Tae Kwon Do, and one of the high up masters from Korea said that the negative Chi (or ki, as the say in korea XP) is what we call stress. This negative energy can be exhausted and replaced by positive energy through vigorous excercise and good attitudes and such.
Imho, this is a simple Godly Truth (that laying around and being snippy and rude make you feel worse, wheras doing stuff and living in a Godly manner makes you feel best) that they observed long ago, and not knowing (or not listening) about God, they developed the idea of Chi or Ki.
Chi is also a word for blood in Japanese, so in that sense I can definately say that "Chi" exists. XP

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:25 am
by Nate
Man I thought this was a thread about Chobits at first.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:34 am
by ShiroiHikari
The Japanese word for blood is "chi", pronounced "chee" like in "cheese" and written 血.

The Japanese word for "qi" or "chi" is "ki", pronounced like "key" and written 気.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:32 pm
by ich1990
Ki is a psychological phenomenon that can be used by martial artists and such to sharpen mental focus. While you won't be cutting falling leaves in two with your brainpower, imagining Ki when you throw a punch can help you focus on that punch and applying the correct technique and optimum force while doing so.

Therefore, I see it as a useful mental exercise that can produce very real results, without actually being real itself. Somewhat analogous to the placebo effect, if you will.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:34 pm
by Mr. SmartyPants
Midori (post: 1438989) wrote:Chi (pronounced "ki" by the way) is probably not real unless you can make it correspond to some scientific principle.

So then can you put souls or the existence of God to some scientific principle? (Especially the former) Does the inability to scientifically correspond something negate it's existence? Or is this strictly a western/modern concept? What makes science so legitimate when it comes to knowing truths?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:58 pm
by Straylight
Nate (post: 1439005) wrote:Man I thought this was a thread about Chobits at first.


lol so did I!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:02 pm
by armeck
i know people who insist that they have shocked themselves trying to do soemthing with chi, that same person also claims to have created an engergy ball that sucked his life away so idk how believeable what he says is. a lot of people i know insist that chi is real, but what you can do with it, is VERY debatable

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:10 pm
by Midori
Mr. SmartyPants (post: 1439013) wrote:So then can you put souls or the existence of God to some scientific principle? (Especially the former) Does the inability to scientifically correspond something negate it's existence? Or is this strictly a western/modern concept? What makes science so legitimate when it comes to knowing truths?
Note that I said probably. If you want to instead relate the principle of Chi to something in Christian religion, I am not opposed.

See, just as a Western speaker can mean many different things when he says 'soul', so 'chi' can mean many different things, some definitely real, and some dubious. The Chi ich1990 speaks about is very noticable; I've felt it myself practicing Karate. The Chi you see in anime that lets you shoot projectiles and read minds is obviously not real. Things inbetween are harder to judge; and I, by habit, tend to take a skeptical position.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:40 pm
by Dante
Is there an Aleph 1.5 between cardinalities, Aleph 0 and Aleph 1?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:06 pm
by Beau Soir
Nate (post: 1439005) wrote:Man I thought this was a thread about Chobits at first.

Straylight (post: 1439016) wrote:lol so did I!

Glad I'm not the only one. XD;

Looks like the question has been answered already, so I'll say nothing more here.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:37 pm
by Rewin
Nate (post: 1439005) wrote:Man I thought this was a thread about Chobits at first.


i did too, had to open it just to see. I think that was all part of the OP's plan just to get more views on his thread ;)

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:55 pm
by That Dude
Along these lines...

Scientists recently did a study (sorry I forgot the source) of the electrical flow within the human body and it lined up almost about %90 with the chi meridians that acupuncturists use for their art.

Anyway I do think that the natural bio-electrics that our body creates can be defined as chi and that in this aspect it certainly does exist...Though as others have said, chi is a somewhat vague term so not all aspects of it can be scientifically proven.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:02 pm
by Yamamaya
Of course Chi exists. She's a robot.

Image

*ruins philosophical conversation*