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Should Working People Still Do Chores?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:46 am
by Lilac#18
Based on your opinion, should people that work outside of home still do house chores whether they are married or not? These are people who have 2 or 3 days off work that don't do chores on their off days at all.
Edit:I'm talking about doing chores on their off days.
I heard a couple of my family members say "I can't do chores because I work" These are family members who have 2 or 3 days off work and don't do them on their off days. Edit:My uncle who is not married and still live at home with his parents, sister and I, works from 8:00am-4:00pm Monday-Friday and is off Saturday and Sunday. My aunt who is not married and still leaves at home with her parents, brother and me works from Tuesday-Friday 8:30am-12:00pm, goes back to work at 2:50pm and comes back home at 4:30pm. She is off Saturday-Monday. My uncle would do some chores on his off days sometimes, but my aunt doesn't do any of them at all on her off days.
I think my uncle and aunt (mainly my aunt) are making excuses so they don't have to do the chores. I think they should at least do chores every once in awhile on their off days and not never.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:54 am
by Shao Feng-Li
I dunno. Depends I guess. If you keep up on it and don't destroy your house, household chores aren't that hard at all.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:55 am
by Roy Mustang
Question, who is going to do the chores if the coupe both work?
Being a coupe is a team effort. They should both do chores to help each other out and the work load should be half and half with a coupe.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:07 pm
by Syreth
I'm not sure if I can speak to the way other households establish the roles and responsibilities of their families... It depends on the circumstances. Do the working people work 12-14 hour days? Or do they work a rotating shift?
It seems as if you feel like you're being treated unfairly. I'm sorry if that's the case. I hope that everything gets worked out!
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:12 pm
by Radical Dreamer
If you live alone and have a job, you still have to keep your house clean.
So yes. Having a paying job doesn't exempt you from maintaining your life. XD
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:36 pm
by Peanut
I misread the question (somehow) and put down no, but I actually meant yes. It shouldn't matter if you are working a full time job or not, part of being responsible for a piece of property is actually doing work to maintain it and when you're married that is a shared responsibility.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:53 pm
by Riggidig
Yes. I do.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:43 pm
by Mr. SmartyPants
Yes. Work is a stupid excuse.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:01 pm
by Tsukuyomi
I can understand if they're tired and not able to do alot, but yes, I think those who work still should do chores ^^ At least help pick up around the house or keep their cloths off the floor o.O Alittle does help ^__^
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:31 pm
by minakichan
I dunno, I think it depends. Saying that work is just an excuse doesn't necessarily look at the whole picture. What if one spouse is working an 80-hour workweek (totally not uncommon on Wall Street) and the other is a stay-at-home-parent? For most families, chores don't add up to 80 hours a week, not even close.
There are some such people who only have the energy to sleep on their off days (and sometimes it's not even off days, plural. Or even off day, singular.). If you're providing for your family while your spouse is just watching TV all day, I think you're entitled to not have to do chores. But that's an extreme example.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:40 pm
by Ante Bellum
Chores should be divided among the family. Sometimes we (my brother and I) do more chores, sometimes less. My parents sometimes work really late (like, 9 or 10), so we have to take care of the animals and sometimes my dad takes care of them. Even just keeping the house clean counts for something.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:58 pm
by ShiroiHikari
The only way I'd say that a job gets someone off the hook from doing chores is if that person has an 80-hour workweek, like minakichan said. A 40-hour workweek with two days off? No excuse.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:00 pm
by Tsukuyomi
minakichan (post: 1352687) wrote:I dunno, I think it depends. Saying that work is just an excuse doesn't necessarily look at the whole picture. What if one spouse is working an 80-hour workweek (totally not uncommon on Wall Street) and the other is a stay-at-home-parent? For most families, chores don't add up to 80 hours a week, not even close.
There are some such people who only have the energy to sleep on their off days (and sometimes it's not even off days, plural. Or even off day, singular.). If you're providing for your family while your spouse is just watching TV all day, I think you're entitled to not have to do chores. But that's an extreme example.
It really does depend and that's a good example ^^ I guess an inbetween would be to try your best to do your part in keeping the house clean and just help when you can ^^? I guess, there should be a balance because some do tend to take advantage of that >_>
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:41 pm
by mechana2015
Apparently these people haven't ever lived alone. Regardless of your schedule you still have to clean, cook and maintain stuff unless you hire a maid/chef (which would be a heck of a lot more feasible with an 80 hour workweek paycheck).
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:15 pm
by minakichan
Apparently these people haven't ever lived alone. Regardless of your schedule you still have to clean, cook and maintain stuff unless you hire a maid/chef (which would be a heck of a lot more feasible with an 80 hour workweek paycheck).
Heh. If you're working that much, you might as well just live at work and not own a home to do chores in:
-Sleep under your desk at night (save a commute, and there's no bed to make!)
-Get a local gym membership and use the showers there
-Eat convenience store food
-Keep a plate and fork in your desk, and wash it in the bathroom with soap when you've eaten off of it
-Send your clothes to a laundromat
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:20 pm
by shooraijin
Radical Dreamer (post: 1352658) wrote:If you live alone and have a job, you still have to keep your house clean.
So yes. Having a paying job doesn't exempt you from maintaining your life. XD
This. (sigh
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:26 pm
by Kaligraphic
If I work a full day before coming home and cooking myself some food, do dishes not get dirty? My experience is that they still need to be cleaned. Working outside the home does not prevent the home from needing some at-home work, too. People who work and live alone must therefore keep up their home regardless of their work schedule.
If there are multiple people living in the same place, naturally they should come to an agreement regarding an equitable and mutually agreeable distribution of both monetary and non-monetary upkeep for the place. If one person provides all or the bulk of the monetary upkeep, it may be reasonable to expect the other to provide all or the bulk of the non-monetary upkeep. For instance, a compact, two-bedroom apartment can be kept in good state, cleaned, maintained, and such, with a relatively minor time commitment. A stay-at-home spouse could do upkeep-type chores and prepare decent (if unambitious) meals in under four hours a day, with a couple of hours of grocery shopping once or twice a week. If the working spouse works for eight hours a day, then it may be more acceptable to split neatly between monetary and non-monetary upkeep. If both spouses work, or children are involved, or the home is larger, then the distribution may shift.
Really, though, it's all a matter of what the people involved are prepared to accept. Chores are not a moral requirement. They are simply the work needed to keep up a place.
Lacking knowledge of the scope of the work itself, then, and going entirely on generalities, my unconsidered opinion is that Lilac#18 should do all the chores.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:06 pm
by mechana2015
minakichan (post: 1352781) wrote:Heh. If you're working that much, you might as well just live at work and not own a home to do chores in:
-Sleep under your desk at night (save a commute, and there's no bed to make!)
-Get a local gym membership and use the showers there
-Eat convenience store food
-Keep a plate and fork in your desk, and wash it in the bathroom with soap when you've eaten off of it
-Send your clothes to a laundromat
Like in Japan? (seriously... some videogame developers are like this)
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:44 pm
by ChristianKitsune
haha Well I guess for me It depends on the chores.
If I'm a dishwasher at my work, I don't want to go home to a full sink of dishes if my family has been home all night...its a little uncool and a huge pet peeve of mine lol.
but other than that, yes I think if you work you should do chores... its gross otherewise.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:53 pm
by Lilac#18
I add more to the top. I wash the dishes everyday or ever other day and empty these little trash cans from two bathrooms (the bathrooms aren't too dirty) and I do my own laundry. I try to keep the living room clean, but my nieces (especially my nieses) and sisters (one of my sisters I'm talking about is older than me) keeps bringing their clothes over our house, piling them on the couch and keeping them there. So, I bag them up and put them somewhere else. I know I should do more, but I feel that my uncle and aunt should too and not just me. I'm sorry, that's just how I feel.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:01 am
by Tsukuyomi
Lilac#18 (post: 1352790) wrote:I add more to the top. I wash the dishes everyday or ever other day and empty these little trash cans from two bathrooms (the bathrooms aren't too dirty) and I do my own laundry. I try to keep the living room clean, but my nieces (especially my nieses) and sisters (one of my sisters I'm talking about is older than me) keeps bringing their clothes over our house, piling them on the couch and keeping them there. So, I bag them up and put them somewhere else. I know I should do more, but I feel that my uncle and aunt should too and not just me. I'm sorry, that's just how I feel.
Hmm, it sounds like you're doing your part ^__^ I would say don't let them take advantage of you :-? You should talk to your aunt and uncle about your sister and what dhe does ^^ Even if she does work, she should at least you know.. not throw her cloths on the couch where people sit down X.X
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:26 am
by Lilac#18
Oh, I forgot to say I feed the cat and clean her litter box.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:12 am
by Dante
EDIT: Nevermind. Pascal needs to shut up. He cleans his room and can have fun with that... but the rest of the Leroux house including the showers and bathrooms (ok we take care of the dishes) has a... Maid? Cleaning Lady? Is there a proper term for that, because she's really cool and saves our lives from dirty jobs grad students like me would shutter at? We need to give these people a fancier title that grants them more respect, honestly! With all of my homework, I'm not sure what I'd do if I had to clean out the floors for the rest of the place (1 room is about my limit for being happy while going to grad school for cleaning... 1 room is great and not bad to clean)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:57 am
by Lilac#18
minakichan (post: 1352687) wrote:I dunno, I think it depends. Saying that work is just an excuse doesn't necessarily look at the whole picture.
I was talking about my uncle and aunt (mainly my aunt who doesn't do chores on her off days. She has three days off), but you're right.
Tsuki wrote:Hmm, it sounds like you're doing your part ^__^ I would say don't let them take advantage of you :-? You should talk to your aunt and uncle about your sister and what dhe does ^^ Even if she does work, she should at least you know.. not throw her cloths on the couch where people sit down X.X
My aunt doesn't throw her clothes on the couch, but she'll keep her room messy (if I rc, she cleaned her room a little bit because the cable guy was coming over to set the cable box, but she left my grandma to finish the rest and is currently messy again.) My nieces put their clothes from their house and piles them on our couch then leave them there. When my aunt bakes cakes or cookies, she won't clean up after. When my uncle bakes, he'll clean up after himself.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:38 pm
by Tsukuyomi
Sounds like what's going over here :-? People taking advantage of those who actually do clean and all of that :-?
Haha, you missed it yesterday 8D I field goal kicked my nephew's shoe out of the hallway xDDD I made sure no one is the path though XDDD;
Seriously though, shoes are to be taken off in front of the door or in that area right? Not here it would seems >_> Everywhere you step, there's always a shoe in your way o.o It's like, I can't even take a few steps without encountering one of my sister's million pair of shoes :O So, I just kick it into the proper space it's supposed to be u_u I'm sorry if you happen to be hit with a shoe, but really.. Shoes don't belong in the middle of the living room, bathroom, kitchen, and other people's rooms D:<
END RANT 8D
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:40 pm
by Yamamaya
Unless you want to live in uber squalor, then yes you should clean up your house even if you work.