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How much does a Gundam cost?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:25 am
by rocklobster
click here!
Now all we need are the angst-ridden, teenage pilots.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:00 am
by Kenshin17
That's interesting, and a bucket load of money...XD

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:25 am
by Dante
That is uber cool... Lets see how many could Bill Gates purchase... and he'd get a discount on the IBM computers too!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:17 am
by Fish and Chips
It costs $400,000 to fire this weapon for 12 seconds.

Meanwhile, angsty teenage pilots are a dime a dozen. Gotta cut military expenditures somewhere.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:23 am
by Dante
I vote Zarn the pilot :P

EDIT: Wait... according to the laws of anime, he's already too old... oh well.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:23 am
by ~darkelfgirl~
I bet it ain't more expensive than University of Miami's tuition for all 4 years *ehem*

If gundams did exist, I'd become a pilot, but then again, I tend to break expensive stuff. *imagines extensive damage on the first try*

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:52 pm
by ShiroiHikari
Good lord. However, isn't the US national debt higher than that, even? XD

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:59 pm
by Kenshin17
Oh its much much higher, trust me.

That much is almost chump change to the US.

F-22 Raptor: 125 million dollars a pop

B-2 Spirit (Stealth Bomber): 2.2 Billion a Pop

F-16 Falcon: 16 million

The cheapest plane in the US arsenal I know of? A-10 Thunderbolt II, the Warthog coming in at 1.5 million. Yeah you heard me, 1.5 million is a 'cheap' fighter.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:24 pm
by Roy Mustang
Kenshin17 wrote:Oh its much much higher, trust me.

That much is almost chump change to the US.

F-22 Raptor: 125 million dollars a pop

B-2 Spirit (Stealth Bomber): 2.2 Billion a Pop

F-16 Falcon: 16 million

The cheapest plane in the US arsenal I know of? A-10 Thunderbolt II, the Warthog coming in at 1.5 million. Yeah you heard me, 1.5 million is a 'cheap' fighter.


I thought the F-22 cost was cut down to $92 million

The F-16 C/D's are now $26.9 million

A-10 is $13 million, but its still the cheaper plane that they have.

The B-1 is $200-plus million

As for the report, $79 billion, 521 million yen (about US $729,700,000) is not too bad in US money, since Yen is worth more then US dollars.

The CVN-76 Ronald Reagan Nimitz-class aircraft carrier was estimated at $4.3 billion and this Gundam would be $800,000 million to buy the parts in US dollars.

Also, in the report, they sure didn't check the FAS web site about the true cost of planes and ships.

In the report, they said this wrote:US$800 million for an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer (operated by the U.S. and Japanese navies)


The true cost for an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer is $20 million for one ship.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:50 pm
by uc pseudonym
That's the kind of fun thing I'm glad scientists do in their spare time.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:25 pm
by RidleyofZebes
O_O That's cool...!

If only they could make them fly, and be a little lighter... That whole thing about them sinking? Sad, sad stuff. Are you sure they couldn't do something to fix that? :eyebrow:

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:53 pm
by KeybladeWarrior
Whoa...that would be cool to see a real gundam.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:58 pm
by Fish and Chips
Image

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Dr. Shikishima knows his business.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:41 pm
by CrimsonRyu17
Ex freak'n dee, Fish. Where is this awesomeness from? XD

Anywho, I think it'd be silly if they ever built such a thing that huge. Fighting on the ground in that thing would be like Godzilla taking a walk through Tokyo. Mass destruction everywhere.

The skies are my type of battlefield anyway.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:49 pm
by RidleyofZebes
Fish... Where'd you get that thing from!?

It like, totally answered my question! :eh:

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:11 pm
by Fish and Chips
CrimsonRyu17 (post: 1191695) wrote:Ex freak'n dee, Fish. Where is this awesomeness from? XD

RidleyofZebes (post: 1191699) wrote:Fish... Where'd you get that thing from!?

20th Century Boys.

A.K.A. The greatest Manga of our time.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:33 pm
by Roy Mustang
You know as much as I said the had the money to build one, I really never want to see a real Gundam, ever.

It would be too much of a problem and if it fell down, it could wipe out a good area.

I feel that if we ever see a robot like in anime series, it would be build for saving lives and not built for war.

Japan has work on something of an unit that they have started calling Patlabor, like the name from the anime series Patlabor. The unit is used for rescuing cars from a cliff or an area that it wouldn't be safe to bring in rescue people to get a person out of a car.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:38 pm
by Mr. SmartyPants
lol Fish, I thought the exact same thing.

Glad you posted that.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:57 am
by EricTheFred
Roy Mustang (post: 1191720) wrote:You know as much as I said the had the money to build one, I really never want to see a real Gundam, ever.

It would be too much of a problem and if it fell down, it could wipe out a good area.

I feel that if we ever see a robot like in anime series, it would be build for saving lives and not built for war.

Japan has work on something of an unit that they have started calling Patlabor, like the name from the anime series Patlabor. The unit is used for rescuing cars from a cliff or an area that it wouldn't be safe to bring in rescue people to get a person out of a car.

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But... what about the huge handgun? Ohta will never be happy with it unless it has a huge handgun!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:07 am
by Mega.EXE
I know that this will be pretty awesome... But I have to say, what a waste of money. No one in the world really needs this do they?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:25 am
by termyt
That's not as expensive as I thought it would be. I would have placed it in the 1.5-2.5 billion range.

But then, they calculated the cost based on aluminum armor. Since it walks and doesn't fly, me thinks aluminum skin would not stand up well in a real battle situation.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:38 am
by EricTheFred
Mega.EXE (post: 1191779) wrote:I know that this will be pretty awesome... But I have to say, what a waste of money. No one in the world really needs this do they?


What are you talking about? I need one! I gotta have a Gundam!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:44 am
by Taliesin
Now if they used Wankel Rotary motors, and Kobe Steel's latest alloy.....
I wanna build a Gundam!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:47 am
by Kenshin17
Mass compensation device. All we need to do is invent a device that can compensate for the Gundam's mass.

Simple, you know, like a lambda driver XD

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:10 am
by mitsuki lover
Actually I think that was just the price of the Gundam sans weaponry.
Plus you have the add the cost of simply adding the engines to make it fly and space worthy.
I think all in all it be over the actual estimate to get a working Gundam that flies and fights and can go into space.

Now where are all the pretty pink haired pacifist girl singers and all the pretty red headed girls?:lol:

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:23 pm
by Roy Mustang
The one thing that is not in the report is the entire cost of the research and construction project.

All the prices for the airplanes and ship that have been posted, are calculated of the entire cost of the research and construction project.

So, pricey yes, as for the parts not that bad. But the full cost of everything would be higher then this.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:45 pm
by EricTheFred
Kenshin17 (post: 1191813) wrote:Mass compensation device. All we need to do is invent a device that can compensate for the Gundam's mass.

Simple, you know, like a lambda driver XD


Then we name it "Behemoth"?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:50 pm
by Kenshin17
EricTheFred (post: 1191861) wrote:Then we name it "Behemoth"?


No, that would be cliche.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:36 pm
by uc pseudonym
So far in the history of war, offensive power has outstripped defensive power considerably. Any real weapon of the future would be small, because the chance of surviving any given attack will decrease unless there is a significant shift in technological trends (like something that would make the idea of an energy shield a reality). Having a bipedal form makes even less sense, but that's already been addressed by the 20th Century Boys excerpt.

But we all know mecha make no sense, they're just to have anthropomorphic battle vehicles. At least I hope we all know.

Fish and Chips wrote:Dr. Shikishima knows his business.

This fellow is my favorite minor character in the manga, hands down.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:40 pm
by Kenshin17
I am well aware humanoid war machines are well beyond the practical. The task of protecting the joints is a nightmare on its own, never mind the massive computers that would be needed to calculate balance and decided where best to put the feet, and then there is the matter of controlling the beast. Add weapons to the mix and you would need a super-computer just to make it pilotable, let alone a true threat.

But isn't that the point? That they could never exist? Its part of the allure.