CAA: Christian Anime Alliance

Anyway, I'm getting an Ipod tomorrow; 30 GB. I'm just not too sure what to do with it, exactly, lol. What is the best way to get music and such? I've got some CDs I'm going to upload to it, but for those other songs, stuff from anime and such, where can I get them?

Try dogpile.com for other songs not on your CDs. And I would suggest installing Livewire.

Livewire? Is it legal?

I think K. Ayato meant LiMeWire. LimeWire is a file-sharing program, so in and of itself, it's legal. Using it to share music files...probably not so much.

Lime wire is technically illegal if you're using it to download music. However, being that I know people who have totally ripped Flash MX and Photoshop off of there, I don't feel that bad when I can't find a song that I like and download one or two of them.

It's only happened once or twice, anyway xD;

It's based out of canada. so techinically the feds can't bring you down. they don't have juridiction.

Whether the feds bring you down or not, the question is morality. Intellectual theft is still theft. And Livewire is a real program...it sends you to the Itunes website, though.

Don't share copyrighted music. It makes baby Eric Clapton cry.

I suggest iTunes. If you have access to a Costco, you can get $50 iTunes cards for $45. That means you get five-and-a-half [since songs are $.99] FREE songs per card. Can you beat that? I didn't think so. The other denominations [$15, $25, and Methodist] are discounted as well.

.rai//

Yeah. I keep saying Livewire. I meant Limewire.

Limewire fills your computer with so much crap isn't not even funny. Do you know how many times I've had to reformat the family computer because of Limewire? Don't use it...lol

Yeah... CAA has an official policy on this one: Don't encourage people to break the law. Guys, integrity can be of like this: Doing the right thing even if you won't get caught.

You can legally download music from places like iTunes by paying for it. If you have a CD, you can rip it. If you can't find the song you want on iTunes (or one of the other on-line shops), you might have to buy a CD to get the song you want. That's the way things are done legally on-line.

FYI: Posts encouraging someone to break the law will be removed; that's our policy.

As a new iPod owner, you will need to take note of the care and feeding requirements of your iPod. To this end, I offer some useful tips:

1: iPods are allergic to water. If your iPod is thirsty, give it electricity, not water. iPods are picky in what they drink, so be sure to give them the right kind of electricity. A computer or iPod charger should be able to provide the correct kind of electricity.

2: iPods are also picky eaters. Do not feed your iPod dog or cat food, as this can upset its delicate stomach. Likewise, table scraps and other pet foods are not recommended. iPods eat music files. These files can be obtained by "ripping" CDs*, or through services such as Apple's iTunes Store. Some musical groups even release some music files for free, as advertisement.

3: If you are the sort of person who buys dog and cat clothing, you should be aware that there also exists clothing for the iPod. Various cases, covers, and clips are available to tell the world that you are an iPod-sweater-buying type of person.

4: iPods have a naturally sedentary lifestyle. Do not expect your iPod to run and jump like a dog. This is just begging for disappointment. Despite this, if you provide the motive power, your iPod will happily accompany you on walks and trips in your hand, pocket, case, cup holder, or other method of carrying.

5: Use of iPods to steal software or music is considered iPod abuse, and is frowned upon by the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to iPods. Likewise, using your iPod as a weapon to beat to death family members, friends, acquaintances, or strangers is not advised. Not only would such an attempt be likely to incite action by the ASPCI, but it can damage your iPod.

[size=75]* "ripping" a CD is a figurative term, referring to reading the CD and creating music files from the music stored on the CD. It is a non-destructive process, and does not involve physically ripping the disc."

So where is the line between legal and illegal here?

Does the owner offer the music/movie/what-have-you for free? Then it's legal. Did you pay them for the music/movie/what-have-you? Then it's legal. Otherwise, stay away.

.rai//

mitsuki lover wrote:So where is the line between legal and illegal here?

We're talking LEGAL - not moral, ethical, etc. We're not getting into that discussion here.

If you buy a CD at best buy, it's legal. If you buy a song on iTunes, it's legal. If you buy an obvious burned CD from some guy on the street for $0.50, it's not legal. If you download a copy of a song for which you don't have the rights to a digital copy - it's illegal.

The law tends to be pretty clear: if you can legally acquire a copy of the music by paying the copyright holder - and you choose to circumvent that structure to acquire a copy - it's illegal.

Discussions of the semi-legalities implicit in unlicensed media are unequivocally referred to the TRIPS agreement and/or the Berne Convention and are typically shutdown on CAA (mostly because of flame wars). Yes we understand that some companies choose to ignore some violations (for example, some fan subs are allowed to propagate to track interest), but international copyright law still stands. Romans 13:1-2 give a pretty good idea what God thinks. As Christians, we are called to live our lives to a high standard.

References

Berne Convention:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literary_and_Artistic_Works
TRIPS agreement:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreement_on_Trade-Related_Aspects_of_Intellectual_Property_Rights


We're not asking everyone to be an expert on the laws - just to uphold them.

I saw an ad on tv yesterday about this new phone from Motorola that has the capacity to capture tunes off the airwaves.I believe with tech like that we are increasingly hedging the area of legal/illegal,where the lines in fact become more and more blur.
That was the whole point of my earlier question.With so much blurring between the lines how do we know for certain that something is in fact legal or illegal?

Define "capture off the airwaves".

Tip 1: Listen to songs on it,thats what it's for!

30 Gig...I suppose Video, right? Trust me, you'll have all the space you'll ever need.
I have 3 videos on my 30gb, over 2,050 songs and 40 to 50 pictures, and I'm taking up, like, 6 gig! I'm bound to get more videos eventually, the ones I have were just tests to see what different DVD-to-iPod program options I had, and which ones seemed the best. (Cucusoft is a really good one, imo)
I'm going to take my entire boxset of .hack//Sign and put it on my 'Pod for the busride to/from school.

I have an iPod Video, 30GB. I have 'round 8 music videos, 13 AMVs, and 370 songs. And I still have plenty of space left over!

Did you know that you can actually install OS X from an iPod? Well, if you have a Mac, you can.