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uhh... is it weird

PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:55 pm
by carneman
is it weird for a junior to be going out with a freshman? i was just thinking, and i think it should be based on the people, not on age, but i just want to know what other people think.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:02 pm
by Raiden no Kishi
I voted "No, it's not really a good thing" because romantic relationships are worthless and troublesome at that age.

.rai//

PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:03 pm
by Nate
*echoes what Rai said*

PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:05 pm
by Puguni
I don't know why, but people seem more comfortable with a guy going out with a younger girl than vice versa.

Personally, I think it's a little creepy. :D

PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:07 pm
by carneman
oh, yeah, the guy is older, just so ya know

PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:07 pm
by Stiletto
If you're concerned about an age gap of two years in high school, then I personally don't think it's that weird (a middle schooler and a high schooler going out on the other hand would seem very creepy). However, you have to keep in mind the status of the long term relationship when the oldest person graduates high school and moves on to college or work...

PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:40 pm
by Eaglestrike
Raiden no Kishi wrote:I voted "No, it's not really a good thing" because romantic relationships are worthless and troublesome at that age.

.rai//


QFT

99.9% chance the relationship goes nowhere. In less than 2 years the junior will be off at college and possibly far far away. Throughout each block of education most people go through some pretty big changes. I changed a LOT through middle school, a LOT more in high school and even more in college.

A relationship that works at that age could be a really poor one in a few more years once they both mature into who they're going to be for the rest of their lives. It's what happened to me, the love of my life during high school and woman I proposed to early in my college years is someone I would not marry today, and she only changed for the better, we just went different directions in our views and wouldn't mesh well these days. Since then I've believed that a lot of what those old people tell you can be true, no matter how intelligent and mature you think you are (which I believed I was) you're still human. Change is necessary, let God mold you into the person you are, don't try to be the person you think you should be with <insertpersonhere> because the relationship that comes first is not with another human.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:44 pm
by Radical Dreamer
Raiden no Kishi wrote:I voted "No, it's not really a good thing" because romantic relationships are worthless and troublesome at that age.

.rai//


Ditto. I wouldn't have voted no if it were a college Freshman and Junior, though. But then, that's a whole other story. XD

PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:46 pm
by K. Ayato
Wait 'til you're both out of high school, and maybe even after the first year of college.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:01 pm
by carneman
well, a serious relationship isnt really expected in high school, is it? most of them are just kinda "hey, i like this person, we should go out." i think its more like practice for the real world. people shouldnt really assume a high school relationship to last, or lead to anything. im not saying i take dating lightly, but it shouldnt be taken too seriously in high school.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:47 pm
by Icarus
If a junior if high school that is just figuring out who and what they are truly thinks that a freshman that has yet to decide what they were is who they want to share their life with, all I can say is more power to them. They're bloody insane, but good luck.

If it's worth doing, it's worth doing well. In my opinion, the high school dating scene is a bad joke. Actually, no. I'd smile more often at a bad joke. The idea of fourteen and fifteen year olds dating just makes me feel tired and sad. Honestly, carneman, if it shouldn't be taken too seriously, why bother? The pain you open yourself up to with casual relationships isn't worth the rewards. In the end, you have a broken relationship and what else? Oh yeah, nothing. You're shopping for a broken heart.



WHY?

For the love of God, tell me. All you're practicing is self injury and the accumulation of scars. You don't need them to figure out what you want. For goodness sake, you can look at the idiots around you and see how you want your mate to differ from them. Casual dating is a hideous, hideous game.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:20 am
by Warrior 4 Jesus
You heard it carneman, the truth straight from The Shadow's mouth.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:57 pm
by mitsuki lover
There should be no problem as long as the couple are otherwise compatible together.Certainly they ought to take their time and think things through as to just how serious they want the relationship to be,however this is true of any relationship.
Two or three years difference shouldn't make too much of a problem.
Though why you are asking this question to begin with?
I think we are probably making too much of a mountain out of a molehill here.
If it were a high school freshman and a college junior though it would be different.
I think that it would be alright for a college person to date a junior or senior in high school but no-one younger.
The rules change the older you get though and it is quite acceptable for a person in their 40s to be dating someone in their mid to later 20s IMO.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:27 am
by termyt
It's a high school relationship. Have fun. Oh, wait, I forgot. Every person you date has to be someone you'd consider marrying or someone may be scarred for life.

A junior has at least the potential for being significantly more mature than a freshman. If we are speaking in general terms, then I would be nervous for the freshman. Of course, we know this is not always the case, so different individuals could be fine. Keep your eyes open and your heart guarded and don’t do anything you don’t feel right about or you know is wrong. Good advice for everyone regardless of age.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:36 am
by Azier the Swordsman
The best dating time is the latter part of college or when they are both grauduated, as two people working with solidified goals in life have a more realistic idea how to approach the relationship together.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:57 am
by Icarus
termyt wrote:It's a high school relationship. Have fun. Oh, wait, I forgot. Every person you date has to be someone you'd consider marrying or someone may be scarred for life.

See? Even Termyt agrees with me. ;)

Sorry, I didn't mean to rant that much. It's just that to me the purpose of dating is to find a mate, and kids doing it just for fun strikes me as using a Gil Hibben to chop lettuce. Nothing intrinsically wrong, but it could be used so much better.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:02 am
by mitsuki lover
Uhm..not in high school.The purpose of dating in high school is just to have fun and to socialize.I think if you're thinking of marriage in high school then you must
be too serious.Momentai,people(as Terriermon would say).Take it easy,chill out and have fun..you can get serious about finding a mate when you grow up and get into college.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:12 am
by Nate
Um...that's extremely irresponsible. I don't recall a verse in the Bible that says "You can do whatever you want as long as it's fun." In fact, I believe the Bible normally says the opposite.

Toying with people's emotions is very cruel. Let's say you start dating in high school, and the girl you're dating seriously starts to love you. Then you turn around and say, "Pfft, I was dating you for a good time, I wasn't going to stay with you."

Do you know how devastating that would be to her? And hey, if dating for fun is okay, why isn't sex for fun okay? I mean, even though the purpose of sex is to have children, obviously like dating, it has a different purpose in high school, right?

No. As Christians, we are not to be like the world. We are to be different. Toying with a person's emotions for "fun and socialization" is deplorable and foul. The purpose of dating is to find a spouse, period. It has no "different purpose" to it in high school. To do so is to fall into the world's line of thinking, that the pursuit of pleasure is greater than morality. Well, it ISN'T.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:17 pm
by termyt
Nate wrote:Do you know how devastating that would be to her? And hey, if dating for fun is okay, why isn't sex for fun okay?

Well, tht's true. Next thing you know we'll be murdering for fun or cheating on our taxes for fun or playing video games for fun.

Where's "Thou shalt not socialize with the opposite sex unless it be for the purpose for marriage" in the Bible? How about you go into the relationship with open honesty?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:21 pm
by Nate
termyt wrote:Where's "Thou shalt not socialize with the opposite sex unless it be for the purpose for marriage" in the Bible? How about you go into the relationship with open honesty?

There is no statement such as that, however you don't need to date someone to socialize with them. At least, I hope not, because I have no intention of dating my male friends. XD

But that's my point. If you want someone to hang around with, talk to, spend time with, you don't need to date them to do that. The only reason to date someone is to get intimate with them, and the only purpose to getting intimate with someone is determining compatibility for marriage. If you're just doing it for "fun," that is against the whole purpose.

I'm not saying Christians shouldn't date. I'm all for dating. I just think we need to date with Godly principles in mind. And "Hey I'm lonely so let's date because I want to mess around and not marry you" isn't Godly, to me.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:50 pm
by Mr. SmartyPants
mitsuki lover wrote:Uhm..not in high school.The purpose of dating in high school is just to have fun and to socialize.

That's not called dating, that's called "Having fun and socializing".
Nate wrote:At least, I hope not, because I have no intention of dating my male friends. XD

I recall a similar instance where we had a funny quote regarding that subject. I'm going to go find it.

Edit: Found it
Mr. SmartyPants in some very old thread which you should not gravedig wrote:By your logic, I would have to go to kaemmerite and ask him on a date to get to know him better

Then Azier goes:
Azier the Swordsman wrote:I'd pay good money to see that. :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:56 pm
by Nate
Mr. SmartyPants wrote:I recall a similar instance where we had a funny quote regarding that subject. I'm going to go find it.

I remember it being something like Nate saying, "You date to get to know the other person better," and you turned to me and said, "Nate, I want to get to know you better. Let's date." XD

I'm pretty sure it happened during either the car ride to Fuddrucker's, or at Fuddrucker's itself.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:00 pm
by Mr. SmartyPants
Nate wrote:I remember it being something like Nate saying, "You date to get to know the other person better," and you turned to me and said, "Nate, I want to get to know you better. Let's date." XD

I'm pretty sure it happened during either the car ride to Fuddrucker's, or at Fuddrucker's itself.

Haha yeah. Good times, good times.