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Bureaucracies

PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:31 am
by RedMage
So, I went to the DMV to get my learner's permit renewed - again - because it expires today and my road test to get my license isn't until the 4th of next month.

A little background: I've had this permit renewed twice before, simply because I never actually really needed my license up until now and we were always too disorganized to bother getting it done.

After waiting fifteen minutes for my number to be called, I walked up to the counter and was informed I needed some other form of ID besides my current permit. We had to drive all the way home, get my social security card, and come back.

Then, after I filled out the forms...they told me I had to go re-take the written and vision tests before my new permit was valid. The same tests I took and passed three years ago. The same tests they never mentioned my having to re-take on either of the two previous occasions I had my permit renewed. The now supposedly invalid permit I used to schedule my driving test last weekend without a hitch.

That's right, I've been driving "illegally" for the past two years. Good thing I have a spotless record and haven't gotten pulled over for anything.

So now I have to go in this Saturday and retake the written and vision tests before I can even drive using my permit. Which means I have to reread through the rules of the road booklet. As if I don't have enough other things to do with two term papers and two exams this month.

I am officially having a very bad day.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:03 am
by Warrior4Christ
How did you 'illegally' get your permit in the first place? (or rather, renew it?)

It would seem it is one of the cases below.
1. The rules have changed since you last renewed, and you need to do all the extra stuff like ID and vision test, etc.
2. They understand that your permit has actually expired, rather than being on the last valid day, and if the permit expires, you need to do all the extra stuff to renew it (I think that's the case here).
3. I'm pretty sure I was thinking of a three before... but I can't remember...

PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:23 am
by Roy Mustang
RedMage wrote:So, I went to the DMV to get my learner's permit renewed - again - because it expires today and my road test to get my license isn't until the 4th of next month.

A little background: I've had this permit renewed twice before, simply because I never actually really needed my license up until now and we were always too disorganized to bother getting it done.

After waiting fifteen minutes for my number to be called, I walked up to the counter and was informed I needed some other form of ID besides my current permit. We had to drive all the way home, get my social security card, and come back.

Then, after I filled out the forms...they told me I had to go re-take the written and vision tests before my new permit was valid. The same tests I took and passed three years ago. The same tests they never mentioned my having to re-take on either of the two previous occasions I had my permit renewed. The now supposedly invalid permit I used to schedule my driving test last weekend without a hitch.

That's right, I've been driving "illegally" for the past two years. Good thing I have a spotless record and haven't gotten pulled over for anything.

So now I have to go in this Saturday and retake the written and vision tests before I can even drive using my permit. Which means I have to reread through the rules of the road booklet. As if I don't have enough other things to do with two term papers and two exams this month.

I am officially having a very bad day.


Do you and Nate by any chance live in the same state? O_O

Just sounds like the samething that happen to him not to long ago, other then it was his license that he had fight the Bureaucracie.

Wingzero22

PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:24 am
by JesusFreak84
Blah. Been down that road, though the only reason I needed to do all the darn testing again was because my permit actually lapsed. My parents couldn't take me to the Secretary of State's office in time. -_-

And LOL wing; I was thinking the same thing. :P

PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:29 am
by Roy Mustang
In Ga, we renewed our driving licenses by mail. All you have to do is fill out a form that comes in the mail and the they mail us a new driving license.


That maybe the reason why people down here crash and run over mail boxes and hit trees and stuff like that.


Wingzero22

PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:31 am
by JesusFreak84
This is a permit, not a drivers license.

We have renewal by mail in IL, too.

(But we rock as drivers. ;) At least compared to the crazy people we have here in MI. 80mph is NOT an acceptable over-limit. >_<)

And wing, if you ran over a kitten, I'll harm you!

PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:51 pm
by Yumie
Aw, that stinks. I actually did know that you have to retake your permit test if you allow it to expire, but your right, it's generally not a very well-known fact. Really sorry about that. Hope the test goes well for you the second time around!

PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:42 pm
by RedMage
How did you 'illegally' get your permit in the first place? (or rather, renew it?)


Because the DMV has no idea what they're doing?

Do you and Nate by any chance live in the same state? O_O


I live in Ohio. I don't know who Nate is.

Aw, that stinks. I actually did know that you have to retake your permit test if you allow it to expire, but your right, it's generally not a very well-known fact.


Even among people paid to know such things, apparently.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:46 pm
by Radical Dreamer
RedMage wrote:I live in Ohio. I don't know who Nate is.


Nate = kaemmerite


Anyways, I let my permit expire accidentally once, and I didn't have to go through any of that. Then again, I live in the south, where they give you a license even if you can't read or write your own name (dead serious).

PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:47 pm
by meboeck
RedMage wrote:I live in Ohio. I don't know who Nate is.


Nate is kaemmerite, and he doesn't live in Ohio. But bureaucracy is everywhere, especially when it comes to the DMV.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:04 pm
by Roy Mustang
Radical Dreamer wrote:Then again, I live in the south, where they give you a license even if you can't read or write your own name (dead serious).



*in country voice*

Duh, that's for sure!



:lol:



Wingzero22