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Alright. Seeing that this is a Christian site, I'm assuming most of you know what the revelation/second coming is, right? Ok, well, I had a dream about it the other night... and its really... not haunting me, but sticking to me. Like, I keep thinking about it, like it means something important... maybe someone could help?

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Dreams are just dreams... I've dreamed about what the apocalypse might be like too... Truth is, nobody on earth or in heaven knows what to expect in the end times, except for our Father in heaven. However, as it says in Revelation 1, it is a blessing to take the prophecy to heart, and we should keep our eyes open for the signs of the times... but beyond that it's one big mistery.

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Dreams are just dreams... I've dreamed about what the apocalypse might be like too... Truth is, nobody on earth or in heaven knows what to expect in the end times, except for our Father in heaven. However, as it says in Revelation 1, it is a blessing to take the prophecy to heart, and we should keep our eyes open for the signs of the times... but beyond that it's one big mistery.


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Yeah... I kno, but it was weird... like, the sky was all dark and stormy, and then this HUGE bright light, like a spotlight, was coming from the clouds... and I knew he was back... Jesus was back... and then, these numbers kept popping up, "11/13/11". I know its obviously not the date, because even Jesus does not know, only the Lord himself... but I'm thinking that theres something I have to do before the revelation happens, and this might be connecting it... I dunno...

xblack_x_rosesx wrote:Dreams are just dreams... I've dreamed about what the apocalypse might be like too... Truth is, nobody on earth or in heaven knows what to expect in the end times, except for our Father in heaven. However, as it says in Revelation 1, it is a blessing to take the prophecy to heart, and we should keep our eyes open for the signs of the times... but beyond that it's one big mistery.


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Yeah... I kno, but it was weird... like, the sky was all dark and stormy, and then this HUGE bright light, like a spotlight, was coming from the clouds... and I knew he was back... Jesus was back... and then, these numbers kept popping up, "11/13/11". I know its obviously not the date, because even Jesus does not know, only the Lord himself... but I'm thinking that theres something I have to do before the revelation happens, and this might be connecting it... I dunno...

Yes there is something you need to do, something we all need to do and keep doing until the end times. And that is spread the message of Jesus Christ to as many unbelievers as possible.

Yes there is something you need to do, something we all need to do and keep doing until the end times. And that is spread the message of Jesus Christ to as many unbelievers as possible.

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I've tried. Believe me, I've tried. Its hard... one of my friends is. And thats it. None of the others beleieve. And when I try to say something, they kind of tell me not to talk about it... I know its probebly not my place to push it on them if they aren't ready, but I don't know how to get people to realize it... I've been watching Jack Van Impe lately, and I'm really nervous that it'll happen soon... but I don't want the people I love to be left behind...

All I can really say is about the specific 11/13/11 date in your dream, if ONLY God knows when the actual date will be, and the angels don't really know, somehow I don't think people would be privileged to know when it is either^^ BUT living like it'll come soon is a good thing. Because, you really don't know. The prophetic signs of the times in Revalations is only a reminder that it's coming soon, but only He knows when it'll be...

As most of the others have said, I wouldn't put much stock into dreams. There are instances of dreams that God gives people, but with the dream you described...We all know (and you even said it earlier) that only God knows when Jesus is going to return, so I wouldn't worry about it. Still though, that doesn't mean you should stop witnessing to your friends and such, and I think it's very good that you've been doing that so far. Keep it up!

Yeah, I suppose. I hate thinking that this dream was a revelation of the future, because that would mean, I'm "special" or watever. But, I'm starting to think now that maybe I had the dream to remind myself of my faith... or if I need to become more christian. Maybe it was a subconscience reminder...

But the whole 11/13/11 thing... I'm confused about it. Thing is, I don't really remember the dream anymore. I just remember I had it. Its gone now. Its weird... I tried looking up 11/13/11 in the bible, but I'm not sure what the first 11 means. Like, 13 would be chapter, and 11 verse... but what does the first one mean? Maybe I'm way off track. I dunno.

xblack_x_rosesx wrote:But the whole 11/13/11 thing... I'm confused about it. Thing is, I don't really remember the dream anymore. I just remember I had it. Its gone now. Its weird... I tried looking up 11/13/11 in the bible, but I'm not sure what the first 11 means. Like, 13 would be chapter, and 11 verse... but what does the first one mean? Maybe I'm way off track. I dunno.

Honestly I wouldn't bother to try to get any real meaning out of the date. It won't get you anywhere and you'll just end up even more confused. We don't know when the end times will come and speculating would be a pretty futile effort in the end. I would just take this dream as God nudging you to share your faith more with unbelievers. Because lets face it everyone dies and they either go to Heaven or Hell.

It is interesting that I keep hearing from people who have visions of dreams of different parts of Revelation in their sleep. For example, one guy who used to be in my church kept dreaming of the seven candlestands. Myself: I take a partial preterist and idealist perspective upon Revelation, which gives me the advantages of all the systems of interpretation. I think this may indeed be a little God given revelation through Revelation, but not so much that armageddon is near as messages on things here and now.

Conjecture: As the numbers go, the 11th chapter of Revelation (First 11) deals with the tale of the two witnesses who stand firm to the message of the kingdom in the face of the great Beast-empire. Meanwhile, chapter 13 verse 11 (Second 13, Third 11) speaks of the Second Beast which is a force of compromised religion which serves the interests of the Beast-empire. The two are the obvious antithesis of each other, and this isn't really an enormous stretch. If this really is a dream-vision from God, I would venture to guess it signifies that you must be willing to stand for God in truth even in the face of corrupt religion.

Wow ghostonthenet, you cracked it open and found out what made it tick. A little creepy, but generally cool.
I dunno... right now I'm not sure where my faith stands. I know I'm Christian, but I'm second guessing myself, not praying, yadda yadda ya, so maybe it's not telling me anything but to get off my butt and get the word out. Or it could be telling me I've gotta take more of a stand. I dunno. Its just kinda... not creeping me out, but I keep thinking about it.

I used to have dreams about the Second Coming quite regularly. It was during a period I was doubting my salvation (a horrible feeling) and I was miserable. But now I've come through that with the help of mum and dad and ofcourse Jesus himself.
Your dreams could be a sense of your consious reminding you to keep witness because Jesus WILL come back or it could just be that your looking forward to His return. I know I am!

It was during a period I was doubting my salvation (a horrible feeling) and I was miserable.

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Thats exactly how I'm feeling. I don't know... I'm excited for the second coming but I'm scared I'll be left behind becos I'm not sure exactly how christian I am... I don't know if I have accepted him in my heart... not just in my head... im so confused...

xblack_x_rosesx wrote:Wow ghostonthenet, you cracked it open and found out what made it tick. A little creepy, but generally cool.
I dunno... right now I'm not sure where my faith stands. I know I'm Christian, but I'm second guessing myself, not praying, yadda yadda ya, so maybe it's not telling me anything but to get off my butt and get the word out. Or it could be telling me I've gotta take more of a stand. I dunno. Its just kinda... not creeping me out, but I keep thinking about it.

First and foremost, you have to know what you stand for. In particular, the 2nd beast is a wolf in sheep's clothing, and is a strong warning against religious deception.

P.S. Are you gothic?

I once had a dream about the 2nd Coming. In the dream I was in a hot-tub. This is nota joke or an attempt to mock you, but just to point out that dreams are dreams. I was 13 when I had it and I'm pretty certain that it did not come true. Dreams are just reflections of our thoughts. Sometimes God tries to tell us something, other times its just our memories and thoughts and emotions that mix up to create something very silly.

First and foremost, you have to know what you stand for. In particular, the 2nd beast is a wolf in sheep's clothing, and is a strong warning against religious deception.

P.S. Are you gothic?


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So, you're saying I'm vulnerable to religious decpetion and I've got to make sure where I stand?

Gothic? No... I can't say I am. Is that relevant you think?

I once had a dream about the 2nd Coming. In the dream I was in a hot-tub. This is nota joke or an attempt to mock you, but just to point out that dreams are dreams. I was 13 when I had it and I'm pretty certain that it did not come true. Dreams are just reflections of our thoughts. Sometimes God tries to tell us something, other times its just our memories and thoughts and emotions that mix up to create something very silly.

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Yeah. Well, now I'm pretty certain that my dream is not a segment of the future. I'm sure its just a nudge from Him, to keep the look out, and be wary of deception and know where I stand. I've had dreams about the second coming before, but this one really bothered me. (Bothered in a good way, you know?)

I used to have nightmares about the rapture and stuff like that and then I became a Preterist and have had no more nightmares.

I used to have nightmares about the rapture and stuff like that and then I became a Preterist and have had no more nightmares.

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Their not nightmares. Whats Preterist?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preterism
Theories that the signs of the time have already gone/been going before our time. I can't bring myself to believe it, tho I won't say that it's a distinct possibility

Yeah... I don't think I could bring myself to beleive it either... Well, I'm trying harder to be Christian now- I read the bible last night and prayed... thats a start, isn't it?

xblack_x_rosesx wrote:So, you're saying I'm vulnerable to religious decpetion and I've got to make sure where I stand?

Gothic? No... I can't say I am. Is that relevant you think?

I can't say I know you personally, and hence I don't know what exactly this would mean for you personally. I only know the scripture, provided you really did see some kind of God-given vision and not a consequence of the Book of Revelation's ability to deeply penetrate the psyche, I can only suggest things that may or may not be meaningful to you. No, whether you're a goth isn't relevant (I'm a goth), just I was curious with your Black Roses name and Edward Gorey looking avatar.

xblack_x_rosesx wrote:So, you're saying I'm vulnerable to religious decpetion and I've got to make sure where I stand?

we're all vulnerable to deception, but when we have the word of God in our minds and our hearts we can use it to combat the deceptions when they come, Jesus quoted the book of deuteronomy every time he dealt with satan, and even many times when he dealt with the pharisees

No, whether you're a goth isn't relevant (I'm a goth), just I was curious with your Black Roses name and Edward Gorey looking avatar.

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Lolz. No. I'm not goth, but I do appriciate and love a lot of goth/emo related stuff. I'm pretty deep, so a lot of that stuff is meaningful to me.

Slater wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preterism
Theories that the signs of the time have already gone/been going before our time. I can't bring myself to believe it, tho I won't say that it's a distinct possibility

Just to note, DeeDeeWarren of Theology Web (Partial/orthodox preterist) had ended up in quite a dispute over that particular article, so I wouldn't use it as my starting place. Myself, I fuse in an interpretation that elements of the apocalypse have a way of repeatedly showing up in history, causing the repeated trend that people see the crisis of their times and misinterpret it to say that the second coming is near.

Just to note, DeeDeeWarren of Theology Web (Partial/orthodox preterist) had ended up in quite a dispute over that particular article, so I wouldn't use it as my starting place. Myself, I fuse in an interpretation that elements of the apocalypse have a way of repeatedly showing up in history, causing the repeated trend that people see the crisis of their times and misinterpret it to say that the second coming is near.

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Theres an interesting article (i haven't read it yet, so don't bite my head off) on MSN home. Its at: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14083809/site/newsweek/?GT1=8307

Hope it was worth posting about.

xblack_x_rosesx wrote:Theres an interesting article (i haven't read it yet, so don't bite my head off) on MSN home. Its at: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14083809/site/newsweek/?GT1=8307

Hope it was worth posting about.

Since you've done your own link, I will mention that Dee Dee Warren's own site on the preterist perspective is http://www.preteristsite.com . Now, it is indeed true that God is fulfilling prophecies of the Book of Revelation before our eyes. It is also true that God was fulfilling the prophecies of the Book of Revelation before Martin Luther's eyes. It is the great mistake in all this to assume that in the crisis of the times that the Second Coming itself is incredibly close at hand. Martin Luther made this mistake, and concluded of the peasant riots surrounding the crises of Papal corruption, particularly with the highly eschatological looking sack of Rome:

"And should the peasants prevail (which God forbid!), -- for all things are possible to God, and we know not but that he is preparing for the judgment day, which cannot be far distant, and may purpose to destroy, by means of the devil, all order and authority and throw the world into wild chaos, -- yet surely thy who are found, sword in hand, shall perish in the wreck with clear consciences, leaving to the devil the kingdom of this world and receiving instead the eternal kingdom. For we are come upon such strange times that a prince may more easily win heaven by the shedding of blood than others by prayers. (Martin Luther, Against the Peasants http://www.historyguide.org/earlymod/peasants1525.html )

Since you've done your own link, I will mention that Dee Dee Warren's own site on the preterist perspective is http://www.preteristsite.com . Now, it is indeed true that God is fulfilling prophecies of the Book of Revelation before our eyes. It is also true that God was fulfilling the prophecies of the Book of Revelation before Martin Luther's eyes. It is the great mistake in all this to assume that in the crisis of the times that the Second Coming itself is incredibly close at hand.


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Well, you even have to admit that an incredible number of prophecies are coming true right now. Yes, they were coming true before, but not at such a rapid rate. And the whole "last generation when the fig tree blooms" thing is pretty clear that it should be happening within our generation.