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Oh, man, they've almost completly destroyed my mind... It's perpetually on my mind now... I can't stop thinking about an eternity of romance in heaven! And NOW hearing about this "Spiritual intercourse with God", I feel horribly violated... It's damaged me in a way that I want to wear lipstick...

Pardon? Explain please, maybe we can help

What DrNic said. I would love to impart comfort and wisdom I am able of but... er... what exactley are you on about?

I think someone may have put a strange thought in his head, and now its troubling him. I think.

I am responsible for that really weird thought of his. While talking to him, I gave him a quotation that went like this

Some professor at some college wrote:I think there will probably be millions of more adequate ways to express love than the clumsy ecstasy of fitting two bodies together like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle. Even the most satisfying earthly intercourse between spouses cannot perfectly express all their love. If the possibility of intercourse in Heaven is not actualized, it is only for the same reason earthly lovers do not eat candy during intercourse: there is something much better to do.[32] The question of intercourse in Heaven is like the child's question whether you can eat candy during intercourse: a funny question only from the adult's point of view. Candy is one of children's greatest pleasures]
You do understand "spiritual intercourse" with God is not sexual right. It's a living and breathing relationship with God. Hes your creator and guardian. He's your daddy, and my daddy. He's your pawpaw,

Meboecker once said that if you keep thinking about it, it will just screw you over. So Stop thinking about it. Thinking about it over and over will get you nowhere. Just stop thinking about it, and it will suprisingly run its course, and you will be happier. Meboeck, has done it, and it works.

Meboecker wrote:Well, just thinking about it all the time apparently isn't doing you any good. Trust me, any time you start obsessing over a certain thought, it just starts taking over everything. First of all, you should pray about it. Don't pray that you will have a family in heaven because that will just get you thinking even more about it. Instead, pray that you will have peace about your future in heaven and pray that you will be able to overcome this thought obsession. You won't be able to find answers until you can step back and calmly try to look at it objectively. If you are obsessed with thoughts, it is impossible to stay calm about them and especially impossible to look at them objectively. You just get wrapped up in thinking the same thought over and over again until that's all you can think about. Maybe you should post something about this in the prayer forum too so other people can pray for you as well. As someone who has gotten caught up in a thought obsession, I will be praying for you. Also, if you need to talk, I am just a pm away.

Good advice. I suggest taking it.

Wise words indeed.

I agree with MSP (Duh since he was the person who put the thought in your head.

Why would we have need for that kind of thing in heaven? It's a WORLDLY desire. We will be ABOVE that kind of thing because we won't even need it.

Why would we? Like MSP said, We won't even want it, because we will have something better! Something GREATER! THE BEST RELATIONSHIP PALES IN COMPARISON!

I am excited! ^_^ I can't wait to worship God Forever! He deserves it! SOOOO MUUUUCH!

It's like when your a kid and your parents say something like "You'll see it from our perspective some day..." and of course you do eventually...but you can't go back to tell yourself how stupid you were for not believing it in the first place. When we get to heaven we'll be like "Man this is the best...I just wish I hadn't worried about it back on earth". I just try to think of it like that, I can relate to it easier (because I've only been an adult for 5 months and so I've just realised all the things I didn't believe when I was younger are true - like the true importance of money, the ultimate unimportance of popularity at school etc etc).

Wow, I didn't mean to write that much ^^

Jesus said to the Sadducees in Matthew that marriage doesn't take place in Heaven. Here's the verse. Matthew 22:30 "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven."

Jon Clement wrote:Oh, man, they've almost completly destroyed my mind... It's perpetually on my mind now... I can't stop thinking about an eternity of romance in heaven! And NOW hearing about this "Spiritual intercourse with God", I feel horribly violated... It's damaged me in a way that I want to wear lipstick...

Kido, I'd love to help you, but first, you have to realize a few things:
1) While it may be a struggle, your thoughts are not just entities which run wild in your head completely without your control. You can choose what to think on. You can choose what you put in your head. If you're allowing your mind to be completely consumed with thoughts of "eternal romance", that is ultimately what you allow to happen in your brain.

2)We didn't do this to you. You've choosing to believe that there must be some romance in heaven, or it's not worth it to you. The permise is flawed. Perhaps the reason that these thoughts are bothering you is that we, here at CAA, are all trying to somehow make you feel good about the fact that Christ said "They will neither be married or given in marriage." We're trying to make God fit into this tiny tiny widdle box that a wife occupies here in this world, so we don't make you unhappy. I think that this might be why we're "confusing" you.

Each of us have things in our lives we can't understand and can't comprehend. "What do you mean that the God head is three in one!? How is that possible?" There are just something in life that we have to say "God, I don't see how that works. I wish it weren't that way, but I'm going to act in faith and believe that this will make me ultimately happy. No matter what my heart says. No matter what my head says. I believe."

The truth is, if you allow your emotions and your heart (by that, I mean the desire to have a wife and have sex with her) drag you around, you won't find the truth. The Bible says that the heart is deceitful (Jer 17:9). If you let your heart and the things your emotions want to be true to dictate what doctrine you believe, even when it violates Scripture, you're going to be miserable. When ever we reject God's word and substitute into its place our own wants (which are so often sinful in our fleshly imperfection), we will go "insane." We will be driven out of our skulls with maddening thoughts.

In the end, before anyone anywhere can give you advice on how to think about these things, you have to decide what you're going to believe. Will you believe that which doesn't feel "good enough", or will you continue to go on being maddened by thoughts which spring from a desire to have something eternally which God has put aside in heaven for something better?

K. Ayato wrote:Jesus said to the Sadducees in Matthew that marriage doesn't take place in Heaven. Here's the verse. Matthew 22:30 "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven."

To add to that. Yes it says "marriage" but don't you romance in marriage? Let's say you had 4 wives (at different times) then you finally died and went to heaven. Now who would you romance? You can't romance with all of them... You'd have to romance with one... but then that leaves the other wives you previously loved out of the picture.

And never say "if you truely loved your wife, you'd never remarry" cause that's just horsemess. If she loved you, she'd want you to get remarried if she died. Likewise if you really loved her, you'd allow her to get remarried if you died.

Mr. SmartyPants wrote:To add to that. Yes it says "marriage" but don't you romance in marriage? Let's say you had 4 wives (at different times) then you finally died and went to heaven. Now who would you romance? You can't romance with all of them... You'd have to romance with one... but then that leaves the other wives you previously loved out of the picture.

And never say "if you truely loved your wife, you'd never remarry" cause that's just horsemess. If she loved you, she'd want you to get remarried if she died. Likewise if you really loved her, you'd allow her to get remarried if you died.

Either that, or we'd have to say there'd be polygamy in heaven. Uh, no. I for one am very glad that God vetoed that.

Please pardon me, but at this point, I'm going be straightforward.

Here's the thing, Jon. Every time you post to ask for help, people offer it, and you get upset. The only reason that I can see for this is that you don't *want* help. You want someone to come in here and say you're right, which, from a Christian perspective, is *impossible.* The Bible says there *will not* be marriage in heaven, and we here at the CAA can not contradict what we know to be faultless and God-breathed. So, you're going to have to reconcile yourself to the fact that we will not tell you what you want to hear if what you want to hear is, essentially, a lie. We all have things we want desperately to believe, because we can't humanly understand the alternative-- for me, it makes my mind spin that heaven will go on forever and ever, but we will never for a moment be bored! But the truth is that I'm a tiny human being in a great big universe that was created by an infinite God, and I just can't understand everything. I just have to trust that God is right-- *always.* And so do you. So, Jon, that's the place you're going to have to come to, or you will go on feeling as though you're going insane, because God is the only sanity that exists in this crazy world, and if we try to deny truths he's given us to cling to our own imperfect ideas of perfection, we will never be satisfied. Never. I hope you will find the true satisfaction that exists in our creator and redeemer one day, Jon, and that you will open yourself to his plans for you, and realize that they are best.

Why would anyone be so consumed with heavenly romance when they aren't even in Heaven yet? Or even old enough to get married, period. My take: it's just hormones. We all go or have gone through it. My advice: pray about it. Talk to someone about it. LISTEN to what that someone has to say about it, not just what you want to hear. And put your worrying energy into something useful.

...and have faith. A bit of faith will always see you through rough times (it's sure done me wonders). Trust me, God's not trying to cheat you out of a happy existance in heaven, what's up there is gonna blow your mind dude