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Porn Nation (don't delete)

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:59 pm
by Ingemar
On Monday there will be a lecture/presentation about the pornographic industry's impact on America. It is hosted by Campus Crusades for Christ.

I will tell you all how it goes.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:01 pm
by Shepherdmoon
This will be fun!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:05 pm
by Ingemar
My bad.

Upon visiting their website, it looks like something a mere student like me can't attend, if the fee is $4000-$8000 dollars. But somehow, I doubt they would get bulletin board space and a table at Library Walk if we weren't able to see it. Maybe the fee is for getting the speaker to come.

I'll find out more. But I don't want this thread to go to waste. The speaker is some ex-porn addict named Leahy, whose marriage was ruined by his addiction. The premise is the effect of a hypersexualized culture on people.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:26 pm
by Uriah
Man... $4,000?.. I could write a book on the subject myself..

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:03 am
by Shepherdmoon
Seems all they want is money.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:12 pm
by Technomancer
I'm pretty sure that's the speaking fee. They recently showed up at my own campus and admission was free.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 1:10 pm
by Eriana
Sounds cool.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 3:36 pm
by mitsuki lover
It's not surprising the subject would be pornography considering how large a buisness it is in this country.I mean you can't even google anime without
coming up with a list of hentai and other porn sites. :shake:

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 3:51 pm
by Yeshua-Knight
in defense of the search engines, many of them do have settings that you can adjust to filter out such explicit content

ok, i'm going to post a link now, the link looks like it's explicit, but i promise you that it's not explicit, it's a site for a ministry that works specifically with helping people deal with any problems with porn that they may have, they also help people that are in the porn business get out of it, they even have a free software you can download that will help keep you accountable of your internet activities with 2 other people

http://www.xxxchurch.com/

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 4:52 pm
by Naga Kisaki
Hey, can I ask an innocent related question?

I know Pornography is wrong, But what about adult fanfictions? When It's about romance instead of perversion? It's it still wrong?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 4:55 pm
by Warrior 4 Jesus
Naga, I don't see what's wrong with true romance for your fan fiction. But what makes them 'adult.' Is it the themes or lust. If its for lust, no I don't think that's the right way to go. Step carefully my friend. And trust Jesus always.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 4:59 pm
by Eriana
Agreed.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 5:06 pm
by Naga Kisaki
Huh? Oh, nonono, I'm not talking about MY fanfictions! I'm talking about reading adult fanfictions! Is it the same as looking at porn?


((I quit writing adult fanfics aboutt the same time I started listening to god more. It wasn't what my talents were ment for.))

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 5:13 pm
by Eriana
Good for you.Sorry if I musunderstood you and judged you to quickly. (if you were talking to me)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:00 pm
by Yeshua-Knight
i will answer your question with an other question, this one retorical though, what is your goal in reading the fanfic? if all you're looking for is a good story, that's fine, but if you have it in mind that you're looking to read something that's going to stir up lustful thoughts and feelings, that's a whole other story

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 5:21 pm
by Naga Kisaki
Hmmmm.... Tough question. Well, I think I read them to vent out lustful feelings, get them out of my system so I won't be tempted in real life.

Why does that excuse sound so familiar?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 7:58 pm
by Mr. SmartyPants
Naga Kisaki wrote:Hmmmm.... Tough question. Well, I think I read them to vent out lustful feelings, get them out of my system so I won't be tempted in real life.

Why does that excuse sound so familiar?


well the question would be "does reading the fanfic arouse you"

if it does, chances is that you better steer away. EVEN if it is clean. I mean there are many clean things that can arouse people.

If it doesnt. Either A. your sexuality is messed and immune to it or B. it is not perverted. (Chances MOST likely B)

also keep in mind of the language and how dept in the romace the story goes

PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:06 am
by Boink!
Jesus says that "if your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off...". Meaning that if fanfic causes you to sin, put it away. ;)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:46 am
by uc pseudonym
While that is a solid biblical answer, it is a bit vague. The obvious question is "what exactly is stumbling?" However, the basic message of the passage is clear: you should go as far as necessary to avoid sin.

Naga Kisaki wrote:Huh? Oh, nonono, I'm not talking about MY fanfictions! I'm talking about reading adult fanfictions! Is it the same as looking at porn?

From my experience, "adult fanfiction" is basically a euphamism for "written porn." However, there are shades of grey when it comes to fanfiction that contains adult elements. My opinion about this is pretty stark, and I haven't reached a conclusion I'm completely satisfied with yet.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:51 pm
by mitsuki lover
I think what we are talking about is what is called Slasher fanfic..isn't that the
correct term?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 3:14 pm
by Warrior 4 Jesus
Like horror story slasher fanfiction? Lots of blood? Seems a bit different to me.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 5:32 pm
by Rambo
mitsuki lover wrote:It's not surprising the subject would be pornography considering how large a buisness it is in this country.I mean you can't even google anime without
coming up with a list of hentai and other porn sites. :shake:





Ya i was tring to find an avito and i put in manga and man that was a mistake dont do it :shake:

PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:35 pm
by Eriana
yeah I would probably think so.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:38 am
by uc pseudonym
mitsuki lover wrote:I think what we are talking about is what is called Slasher fanfic..isn't that the
correct term?

Close, but not quite. Note that this post is only as far as I know, and my knowledge on this subject is rather limited. Also, many different people use the terms in different ways, so no one set of definitions will remain accurate.

That aside, I believe the term is "slash." "Slasher" is the genre that Warrior 4 Jesus described. However, though slash is sometimes used to refer to pairing characters (due to the forward slash used to designate Character/Character), the original use of the term was for homosexual pairings for American movies, not anime.

General adult fanfictions can be called lemons or limes. Some make distinctions between the two terms, but everyone defines them differently so these are of little use in my mind. It is safe to say that if the story references some manner of citrus it is probably written sex. Another common term is PWP, or "porn without point." Typically this refers to the above, but without any real story or characterization involved.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:01 pm
by mitsuki lover
You just put me off citrus fruit!