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Something that really happened:

In Russia they had people lined up to confess or turn there back on Christ. They had a picture of Jesus and the people that denied him would also have to spit on his picture. So people came down the line, some spitting and some confessing they were his, and they had the confessors on one side and the deniers on another. Then they came to this little seven year old girl, and when she was told to confess or deny with some one pushing a gun in her face, she said "I could never deny Jesus." and she took part of her dress, and wiped off the peoples spit that was on Jesus' picture, and kissed it. The men that had the guns and were about to kill the Christians were so moved with compassion, that they let all the people who confess Jesus go free, and killed all of the people that denied him instead. Be real my brothers and sisters, go all the way.

Source?

to be honest, it does seem a bit farfetched. Good message, but it sounds like an urban legend

and the part where they killed the deniers... that part also seemed farfetched


but good message! and cool story!

Sounds like something from JesusFreaks or something...

hmm....my pastor told that story at church last year. I'd be curious to know much of it is true or if it's just one of those warm/fuzzy things.

FadedOne wrote:hmm....my pastor told that story at church last year. I'd be curious to know much of it is true or if it's just one of those warm/fuzzy things.

Sounds like a warm fuzzy story to me.

Yah..it sounds like something in JesusFReaks...where this girl was asked to spit on the bible, heck even her pastor did it...but when she refused and wiped of the spit some soldiers shot her in the head...

I don't think this is so farfetched...things like this do happen.

It would be interesting to see the sources for these stories, since I have heard at least four variations of this story.

My guess is urban legend. But thats just my opinion. My biggest beef with the internet anymore is people spreading stuff with no source....its how things get all muddy...

I was also given the story from a believer and was told that it really happened. It wasn't hard for me to believe seeing all the greater things that Jesus did in the bible and other things he's allowed me to see with my eyes. This is small compared to some other things that the Lord has done. Such as the cross and the switchblade- http://www.booksofthebible.com/p1620.html or what the Lord did at the Brownsville revival in Pensacola Florida- http://www.brownsville-revival.org/ or what he did in antartiuca, Asbury College, Argentina, and in many other parts of the world http://www.fireonthealtar.com/ .

It's encouraged that we don't believe things simply because one has said it, but if the Spirit is in us he'll help us to realize whether something is truth, half-truth or total lie. Maybe when I received this story it was a little altered, I don’t know but I do know the Lord has done even greater things.
This is an entire book of Martyrs and miracles following there persecution- http://www.gospelweb.net/foxeintro.htm

I do think it is important to know whether a story is true or false before reporting it, even if the moral of the story is good. A story of God's grace that in that particular case is fictional, but gets reported as fact, may be uplifting temporarily to Christians who read it but is embarrassing when an unbeliever reads it who may already wonder if this Jesus guy is just a crock. If he or she is reading obvious baloney, that's a very poor witness (especially if that person winds up of the opinion that Christianity can't even stand up to the smallest scrutiny -- "look at how accurate their alleged true stories are").

I think it would be very important to justify this with a reference or a person, rather than simply state it as fact, because we have other people reading this site who may not be as firm in their faith (if at all).

Fictional stories about God's love are also wonderful, but should be clearly labeled as fiction.

shooraijin wrote:I do think it is important to know whether a story is true or false before reporting it, even if the moral of the story is good. A story of God's grace that in that particular case is fictional, but gets reported as fact, may be uplifting temporarily to Christians who read it but is embarrassing when an unbeliever reads it who may already wonder if this Jesus guy is just a crock. If he or she is reading obvious baloney, that's a very poor witness (especially if that person winds up of the opinion that Christianity can't even stand up to the smallest scrutiny -- "look at how accurate their alleged true stories are").

I think it would be very important to justify this with a reference or a person, rather than simply state it as fact, because we have other people reading this site who may not be as firm in their faith (if at all).

Fictional stories about God's love are also wonderful, but should be clearly labeled as fiction.

Also, I had seen a story told on some Chick tract a long time ago where instead you have a church in one South American plagued with terrorism, and naturally, the terrorists burst in and line the believers on one side of the wall and the non-believers on the other in a similar fashion, planning on killing all the believers to destroy the church, but the Pastor and his wife boldly accept their death without fear on the promise of heaven, and the terrorists instead decide to mow down the others for 'not believing in anything'. Since I'll be attending Asbury College in the fall, perhaps I'll have the chance to hear the story about what happened there.

My biggest problem with the story is the basic premise. Although, it is uplifting to a point... if the Russian guards were wanting to kill the christians so much, then why would the guard be so moved by the little girl's devotion that he starts killing the people who denied Jesus instead? Doesn't seem to fit right...

it could also be true that over time, a true story would get altered little by little, and by then the story would although still have a similar meaning, but have many changes

shooraijin wrote:I do think it is important to know whether a story is true or false before reporting it, even if the moral of the story is good. A story of God's grace that in that particular case is fictional, but gets reported as fact, may be uplifting temporarily to Christians who read it but is embarrassing when an unbeliever reads it who may already wonder if this Jesus guy is just a crock. If he or she is reading obvious baloney, that's a very poor witness (especially if that person winds up of the opinion that Christianity can't even stand up to the smallest scrutiny -- "look at how accurate their alleged true stories are").

I think it would be very important to justify this with a reference or a person, rather than simply state it as fact, because we have other people reading this site who may not be as firm in their faith (if at all).

Fictional stories about God's love are also wonderful, but should be clearly labeled as fiction.

We report things we believe without factual proof and evidence every day.
Many people didn't know that the story of Jesus Christ was fact the first time they heard it, but by the grace of God they believed and received evidence latter in their walk.
Those that look for faults and mistakes in the believer’s life are truly believers themselves, or else why would they try to justify their Skepticism of Jesus Christ?

agasfas wrote:My biggest problem with the story is the basic premise. Although, it is uplifting to a point... if the Russian guards were wanting to kill the christians so much, then why would the guard be so moved by the little girl's devotion that he starts killing the people who denied Jesus instead? Doesn't seem to fit right...

You don't believe that God is able to change the Russian guards hearts because of the little girls devotion?
Isn't God able to harden and to soften people’s hearts? Exodus 7:3