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Martyr rate for Jesus ?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:37 pm
by The Shadow
yo yo
dnt know wehre to post this but any way :thumb:

I was wondering what the martyr rate was for chrisitans dieing for Jesus
for like 2004 or 2003 something rescent anyway

i got the rat in 1999 160,000 chritians were martyred :?:
and estimated 165,000 in yr 2000

it will help in witnessing (i hope) :thumbsup:

so yea does any one know more than that :sweat:

would be good

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:53 pm
by Slater
you know what's interesting? the Tsunami of 2004. It only hit the nations that persecute and kill Christians. Yet... the only groups who went to their aid? not humanists, atheists, bhudists, hindus, mormons, agnostics, trancendentalists, or muslums... only Christians went. Ironic, no?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:03 pm
by Ashley
Just here to remind everyone to keep their replies loving and informational---the last thing we need is to deepen the hatred of Christianity around the world by openly bashing those that persecute us. Paul writes in Corinthians we are to bless those that curse us, and endure persecution.

That being said, please share any statistics you know of and where you found them.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:03 am
by termyt
I don't know those figures off-hand, but perhaps you should consider signing up at the Voice of the Martyrs' website at http://www.persecution.com

They may have what you are looking for and a whole lot more.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:24 pm
by Locke
Ditto termyt, also reading Jesus Freaks by DC talk is a good idea as well =]

PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:07 pm
by The Shadow
yo yo
ive read the jesus freaks matyr books well half way any way
thats where i got the 1999 stats :thumb:

PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:04 am
by Fsiphskilm
I think

PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:55 pm
by That Dude
I agree with Termyte. Voice of The Martyrs is a must read publication. It would have the stats that your looking for. If you want to study up on the history of Christian martyrdom check out the books; "Foxes Book Of Martyrs" and "The New Foxes Book Of Martyrs." I'd recommend the latter (it's a whole lot easier to read.)

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:34 am
by Technomancer
Foxe's Book of Martyrs is at best a questionable resource. It was written to a great extent as propaganda during the English reformation and directed against Catholics. These days it is not generally regarded as a historically accurate source for that time period.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:15 pm
by That Dude
I know that the New Foxes Book Of Matyrs is pretty acurate at least...Well the second half of it is about dead on. I haven't actually read the original so I'll give you that, but I'm pretty sure that the new one is pretty acurate.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 3:03 pm
by shooraijin
I haven't actually read the original so I'll give you that, but I'm pretty sure that the new one is pretty acurate.


Why, what's the difference?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:10 pm
by That Dude
Well I know that the original was written around the 14 to 15 hundreds...Can't remember exactly when though...I don't exactly agree with Technomancer about it being faulty but I haven't studied up on it enough...But I know that the new version falls in line almost exactly with Voice Of The Martyrs which is very trustworthy. I believe that the new one is an update of the old one and has been made easier to read...And it has an updated version of persecution from the 1900 onward which line up with all that I've read about persicution of christians nowdays.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:10 pm
by dreamhacker
So many Christians is being martyred?! What's wrong with the world?!
Just thought about it, are Christians the only ones that is so much hated (when thinking about religions)? :S

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:28 pm
by Ducky
World Gospel Mission, a missions agency where I go to school, had a service about the persecuted church a few weekends ago. They said that in China alone a Christian is martyred every 3 minutes for about 450 a day... and that a number in the thousands convert to christianity daily as well. I believe that they got their info from voice of the martyrs but it's incredible how God works so much in these areas that make the least room for Him and the extreme faith of beleivers there. Anyway the persecuted church and missionaries within those countries could certainly use our prayers.