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A really hard question

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:40 pm
by Mr. SmartyPants
This may be a really depressing question. But do you think it's better for someone close to you die without knowing them to well? (such as a parent)

Cause if you knew them, you would look back at the memories, but also be depressed. But if you didn't know them, you wouldn't have memories, and maybe not be as depressed.

Same goes with like, a infant. If they were to die, would you perfer having them die as maybe a 5 year old? SHattering their hopes and dreams? Shattering your hopes and dreams? Having memories of a parent and child of the good times they had? Or better when when you didn't have many memories, where the infant did nothing but eat and sleep. What would be more worse? WHat would be better? I can't come to a conclusion.

In the end, having memories of lost ones is good to have, but also very sad to remember.

I also agree that knowing that they would be at a better place AND having memories would make you happy, yet you'll always miss them...

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:33 pm
by Link Antilles
Personally, if it was someone close, it might haunt me that I didn't get to know them.

For myself, I would look at the good times and smile. Now it would sadden me if they never accepted Christ. I would never see them again. Does that mean I wish I never knew them? No, I'd still wish to know them.

So yeah, I think the sadder reminder is… never knowing them.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:51 pm
by Mave
If someone died without me knowing them, I would be more devastated that I didn't know them OR didn't do enough for them. You know, the..."if only I had spend more time....if only I had told them, I wish I had done this for them, maybe I could have made a difference in their lives...etc.etc."

I would have no regrets knowing someone eventhough it make me sad to lose them.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 11:39 pm
by EireWolf
"'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all."

Alfred Lord Tennyson

PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:14 am
by Scribs
Well I have lost both of my grand fathers and I knew one very well and the other one not at all. when the one I did't know died I wasn't very sad and knew I should be. I beat myself up over this and was verry distressed for a week or 2 but then I got over it and basically just forgot about it.

When my other Grand father died I was very sad but at the same time I remembered all the great times i had had with him and was therefor not as distressed as when My other Grand father died.

I think it is better to know someone and have a good relationship with them.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:44 am
by Ssjjvash
I heard a song, I think it was Bebo Norman, that said something like if he died he wasn't leaving but just changing neighborhoods.

I used to be scared about the thought of one of my relatives dying and the song helped me realize that I'm gonna' see them again in heaven again anyway, so there's no use worrying about it--plus they aren't dead anyway. It was actually a phase I was going thru.

But then people I know who aren't Christians, thinking about them dying, it just makes me want to witness to them more 'n stuff.
Well, that doesn't exactly go with what you're asking or saying or whatever, but oh well.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:07 am
by kaji
I dontI do not think there is much question as to which would be harder emotionally.
Though, I do not think about death very much in general. When God wants to take some one, who am I to disagree, to get upset.

Think about King David. In Second Samuel 15 And Nathan departed to his house. And Jehovah smote the child that Urijah's wife bore to David, and it became very sick. 16 And David besought God for the child; and David fasted, and went in, and lay all night on the earth. 17 And the elders of his house arose, [and went] to him, to raise him up from the earth; but he would not, and he ate no bread with them. 18 And it came to pass on the seventh day, that the child died. And the servants of David feared to tell him that the child was dead; for they said, Behold, while the child was yet alive, we spoke to him, and he would not hearken to our voice; and how shall we say to him, The child is dead? he may do some harm. 19 But David saw that his servants whispered, and David perceived that the child was dead; and David said to his servants, Is the child dead? And they said, He is dead. 20 Then David arose from the earth, and washed, and anointed himself, and changed his clothing, and entered into the house of Jehovah and worshipped; then he came to his own house and required them to set bread before him, and he ate. 21 And his servants said to him, What thing is this which thou hast done? thou didst fast and weep for the child alive; but as soon as the child is dead, thou dost rise and eat bread. 22 And he said, While the child was yet alive, I fasted and wept; for I thought, Who knows? [perhaps] Jehovah will be gracious to me, that the child may live. 23 But now he is dead, why should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he will not return to me.

I think it would definitely be harder to lose some one that you have made an emotional bond with, but I still think David’s reaction in this chapter is a model of how we should all view the death of loved ones.

-kaji

PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:45 am
by cbwing0
I agree with everyone else that I would regret not getting to know someone better and spend more time with them if they died before I got a chance to know them. Of course there would be more pain if I knew the person well, but there would also be lots of good memories and (hopefully) comfort in the fact that I will see them again in heaven.

Think about it this way: if you are going to avoid getting to know people just to keep yourself from feeling the pain of loss, you might as well shut yourself up in your house and wait to die. Then you will have the pain of loneliness, which can often be just as great as the pain of loss.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:51 pm
by Mr. SmartyPants
yeah, i think that having memories is better than not knowing them at all

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:05 pm
by Fsiphskilm
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 1:15 am
by Zane

PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 1:27 am
by c.t.,girl
i would rather know 'em. 'cuz i've been in both boats. first my g-pa dies and i didn't know a thing 'bout him. so that was really sad. second my g-ma dies and i knew her well. i know i will see her again, but i get to angcious(spell?) to see her so then i start to cry :sniffle: .

PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:57 pm
by agasfas
I would personally like to know them before they died. This is how i see it:

If they died and i didn't know them well (like parent), then you have no memories to perserve about them besides the bad.

If you knew them well you would have more memories to look back on. Though you might have more grieving, at least you have something to hold onto.

Now about the infant. Rather hard question. It would be easier to have the infant die young, but like i said earlier, if you didn't spend time w/ them you have no memories to hold onto b/c the bad. If you got to know them, raise them then you would have memoires to look back/hold on to (kinda like pictures) and remember the good. It would be nice for someone to experence a little bit of the real world before dieing, no matter how short. Every minute of life is precious.
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