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What would happen if a Manga-ka died before their manga was finished?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 7:58 am
by Heart of Sword
I think about this a lot...what would happen if a manga-ka died before their manga had been completed and was already published? Or, what would happen if an actor died in the middle of a movie? Or a novel writer who's writing a series? O_O;
We'd never find out what happens!
PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 8:05 am
by shooraijin
They would have bigger problems than not finishing their work if they hadn't found Christ by then ...
This has happened several times, particularly in movies. Often they have to find a body double, or reuse footage, or digitally alter filmed footage, or rewrite the script entirely. The Pink Panther movie "Curse of the Pink Panther" was filmed with Peter Sellers, the original Inspector Clouseau, over a year after his death in 1980 -- director Blake Edwards did the movie using a body and voice double, outtakes from the previous movies, and a second half that just didn't have Clouseau in it (I won't spoil the movie by saying why). Unfortunately, it wasn't a good movie because you could tell it was forced, and that's obviously a real risk (you'd have to weigh it by how much would be lost by cancelling the production altogether).
In the case of a literary or manga series, what happens is determined by the artist's estate. If there is no specific provision in the will of the artist for a follow-on writer, then the executor has to make that decision. Often, the work simply perishes unless it was a particularly popular title where there is obviously high demand to continue the series.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 8:14 am
by Heart of Sword
I'm a writer, so I'm thinking about maybe writing what happens in the series in case it gets popular... (it's not finished yet)
I don't like the thought, like what if Rumiko Takahashi died?
Off Topic: The person who made up Yu-Gi-Oh's last name is Takahashi too
PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 8:17 am
by shooraijin
I sincerely hope you're not trying to tell us something about your lifespan.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 9:20 am
by Ashley
For a bit of trivia, another famous death-while-filming was Brandon Lee during The Crow. He actually died in a stunt that went wrong, and if I remember correctly they used a mask on another actor for most of the rest of the scenes filmed (Shatterheart, being the excellent Crow fan he is, can correct me if I'm wrong).
Also, manga-ka, from what I know, tend to work with assistants who help draw backgrounds or minor characters, etc. I'm sure if something were to happen to a manga-ka while they were being published, these assistants would step in because they worked extensively with that manga-ka and are probably the best ones to imitate their style for the rest of the series.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 9:31 am
by Heart of Sword
I hope to live a long life, Shooraijin.
Died? During a stunt? O_O *hides from movie-making people*
PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 9:51 am
by Azier the Swordsman
shooraijin wrote:This has happened several times, particularly in movies. Often they have to find a body double, or reuse footage, or digitally alter filmed footage, or rewrite the script entirely. The Pink Panther movie "Curse of the Pink Panther" was filmed with Peter Sellers, the original Inspector Clouseau, over a year after his death in 1980 -- director Blake Edwards did the movie using a body and voice double, outtakes from the previous movies, and a second half that just didn't have Clouseau in it (I won't spoil the movie by saying why). Unfortunately, it wasn't a good movie because you could tell it was forced, and that's obviously a real risk (you'd have to weigh it by how much would be lost by cancelling the production altogether).
(OFF TOPIC - sorry!) I've never heard of that particular addition to the Pink Panther series... was it ever released to video/DVD?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 10:13 am
by bakura_fan
In the Poltergeist Movie trilogies.....people were dying off left and right. It just didn't have the same feel to it by the third movie.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 10:51 am
by Ashley
Bakura, we meant the actors themselves dying, not just characters. Brandon Lee was shot through his hand (the round was supposed to be a blank) and I'm pretty sure it went to his chest as well.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 12:34 pm
by shooraijin
> I've never heard of that particular addition to the Pink Panther series... was it ever released to video/DVD?
It's on video (I know this because I own it), and I imagine MGM will release it to DVD if they haven't already. The first half almost works (and they do make good use of their old discarded footage, so it's almost worth it for those scenes), but the second half is a dud. Just keep that in mind ^^
EDIT: WHOOPS! The title is "Trail of the Pink Panther" ... "Curse" was a later picture in 1983 that didn't have Clouseau at all. Sorry about that. Don't even bother with "Curse" as it was absolutely horrid. "Trail" is the one I was referring to.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 1:07 pm
by Yojimbo
Ashley wrote:Bakura, we meant the actors themselves dying, not just characters. Brandon Lee was shot through his hand (the round was supposed to be a blank) and I'm pretty sure it went to his chest as well.
Actually it hit him in his right abdomen he never got hit in the hand. This is what happened they were going to use dummy cartridges instead of blanks for the close up shots. Blanks and dummies are different because they contain the actual bullet on the end of the cartridge but contain no gunpowder. Blanks are just cartridges without the bullets and alot of gunpowder for the flash. Blanks are still dangerous though because of shrapnel. Dummy cartridges are used for close-up shots because they contain the actual bullet on the end of the cartridge but contain no gunpowder. It looks more realistic if you see can see the bullet tips in the pistol's cylinders. The prop department didn't have any of these dummy cartridges on hand, so rather than shut down the production for the night, some idiot decided that he'd rig some of the live rounds. They removed the gunpowder from the cartridges and replaced the bullet tips creating makeshift "dummy" rounds for the close-up shots. Somewhere along the line one of the tips came loose from the cartridge and lodge itself in the barrel or cylinder of the handgun. So...then the gun was fired and the projectile hit him.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 3:17 pm
by JediSonic
I'm confused 0_o
PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 6:25 pm
by Psycho Ann
This actually happened to the world famous Fujio F. Fujiko (or was it Fujiko F. Fujio?) who were actually two people known for creating Doraemon. One of the creators died before the two could come up with the 'true' ending and so I believe two vastly different endings came up and till now I *still* don't know which is the "true" ending.
Depends if you like sad endings or happy endings I guess.