CAA: Christian Anime Alliance

Those of you who got to read this, Think about it

DragonSlayer wrote:Seriously, even though I ahvnt psoted ehre for a while this is somthnig I've noticed, I get ten times LESS help and/or encouragment form people here then on secular message boards, I see less of people being helped here and having there problems solved here than any other form where people simply want to help each other out, think about it people, this is a christian Anime fourm am I right, of course, Christian, I now Im probally gonna get banned for this bt it needs to be addressed, Now if somone did die here, how ould it make you feel, if they left a message saying theyre were going to kill themselves and you didnt do anything about it, yet you never hear from them again. thinka bout that, Im sure it may have happened to one of you but I still think the jist of you really wouldnt care, you may say, "How dare you!" but, it's probally true, and also you may be thinking "Who is he to judge our character?" Im no one to judge your character but I judge the character of this fourm and the things i've read here, I have more support from a secular post than here, than I EVER got here, Just think about it. and if you realy care, then good, act like it, more people from secualr fourms act like they are christians then I have ever seen you all to be, the ones I saw, yes pretty much all of you,

Hey! My point is this, people on this fourm, act like christians!!!

Did the Pot Bellied Cow thread bring this on or something? Granted I've only been here a couple weeks but I already don't feel like a "noob" or a complete stranger to everyone. I've already talked to plenty of very nice and caring people. You're also generalizing these boards with every other secular forum on the internet. The usual flaming and the constant bickering that is so common on internet forums is not a place I'd like to look for help at. Sure not all of them are like I can think of one that isn't and that's because I know most the people there and have even met some of them inperson.

When I look at the prayer boards for example, I see people spilling their guts out about their problems and I see people everyday trying as best they can to help them. When I see people asking for advice about something or with a question I see people here giving their time to try and help them. Granted this is the internet and the best most of us can do is talk to the person and give them advice. What honestly can we do about someone who leaves a suicide note here? Unless someone has their number or lives near them all we can do is pray and what is more powerful than prayer? I don't know you, but maybe you feel angry towards the forums here because you had a problem and nobody knew you were struggling. I don't know...but you do. People can only help for as much as they know. If you don't reach out to people how will they know you're struggling? I should know this, I wish I would I reached out for help when I was struggling, alot sooner than when I actually did. I could of saved myself alot of needless trouble.

Like I said I see people acting very Christ like on these boards I don't see where you're getting this thing that people here are being un-Christian like.

If you dont see why im acting like this then You didnt read or udnerstand my post, and about the suicide thing, that was simply an example for my point, granted there not much you can do about it, my point is that would any of you care? seriously? think about it, maybe it was jsut me they decided to screw over twice then huh? twice I've been here udner two different names and both times ntohing good has come of it, no bad either but, tell me. are you getting my point? Look at your slelf, your lifestyle, your everything and ask yourself, are you really acting like a christian? And despite what I have jsut said I ahve no personal grudge against this fourm or the people on it.

Did you get my PM DS? This is counter-productive.

BTW, using multiple accounts IS grounds for banning, so I suggest you rectify that problem.

BTW, if you need to talk bro, then by all means PM me.

Grace and peace to you in Christ Jesus,
SK.

Saint Kevin wrote:Did you get my PM DS? This is counter-productive.

BTW, using multiple accounts IS grounds for banning, so I suggest you rectify that problem.

BTW, if you need to talk bro, then by all means PM me.

Grace and peace to you in Christ Jesus,
SK.

This other acount was far before my dragonslayer acount, on a different server years ago.I apolagize to everyone, at this point that is all I can do, I dont care anymore.Im sorry.

Alright then bro, I don't care either. No harm, no foul. And btw, thanks for the speedy PM reply. JUst understand that it was never my intention to beat you, or anything like that, I just wanted to know what prompted such strong feelings and words from you. If you don't care to talk about it, then cool, but if you do, just know that you can PM me whenever. Take care bro,
SK.

'DragonSlayer' wrote:my point is that would any of you care? seriously?

Yeah. I would. Mostly because I've dealt with it.
I have a cousin named Micah who's basically the male version of me]changed[/I].
We stopped talking, he got depressed, stopped visiting. And then one day, his sis Chariety found him cutting his wrists.
Things haven't been the same since. He's given up and is bent on dying, and his now in a rehab center that's more like a looney bin then a hosptial, and is only allowed home once or twice a year. It sucks. Big time.
So yeah, I guess I'd care.

think about it, maybe it was jsut me they decided to screw over twice then huh? twice I've been here udner two different names and both times ntohing good has come of it, no bad either

Like my grandma always said; ya' get out of the cookie jar whatcha' put in.

(Oops. Got a little trigger happy. Accidentally double post. Cookie anyone?)

Ofcourse I'd care! Here at the CAA it's like we're all a big family. Besides, if something like that happened to you, you would want some one to care, right?

DragonSlayer wrote:Those of you who got to read this, Think about it

What point are you trying to make?

Rai

I think DS is just trying to get us to really think.
To draw us out of our little worlds and look at the big pic, 'cause it really could happen.

And you know, I think it's good to just ponder those sort of things some times.
-How would I react to something like that?
-What would go through my mind?
-What if it had been me, or one of my close friends here at the CAA?
-What do I think people would do if it was me?

See what I mean? Just get your brain working. It's healthy to question these sorts of things in life from time to time.

I think I would.
Would it affect me as much as my family dying...probably not. I'm being honest.
Just like if I say I'm praying for someone on this site, I am. I write down who I've promised to pray for and I pray during my daily quiet times. If that person or anyone else on here died, I would be upset.
This place is a big family with older bros/sisters.

I admit though, that I do not visit the Christian Growth forum half as much as I do this one or others. I need to work on that and this I will consider is a good reminder.

Of course I'd care!

If I get all upset because some random guy died and got on the news, I'd be even more so if someone on here was to die. Much more if they killed themselves, because then I'd get all wary and think that it was my fault, that I could've stopped them, etc.

If someone on here died, it'd be almost like a brother or sister dying, even if I didn't know them that well. It's like a family or a community here. People get all worried if someone's even gone for a couple of days, but if someone were to permanently disappear...?

I don't know what point you're trying to make, but I hope it's not like points that other people before you have tried...*remembers Lonelyone, wonders about PotbelliedCow, then remembers Zarn's goodbye-letter and wonders even more*

Dragonslayer, I dont really know what you are getting at since there are clearly a LOT of people here that DO care. Take me for example...

I have just about made myself sick (perhaps not literally but I felt that way) reading about the suicidal issues having to do with one member here. So I let them know how I felt about it, and now I think they're doing better, but I still pray for them a lot. Right now, my prayer time is mostly dedicated to a person I know through AIM that has been struggling like that too.

Actually just about the only thing I specifically pray for before bed is potential suicide victems (which will hopefully change when I quit being lazy and find time for other stuff in my prayers lol)

I think I (and previous posters) speak for the entire forum when I say, we DO care about people in need, ESPECIALLY potential suicide victems, and if we ever failed in HELPING someone to choose life then we would CARE a lot and in my case feel guilty about it (even if there wasnt really anything we could do)

But then, there is always something we can do, and that is prayer which, if you look at the prayer request forums, is something that the CAA are really good at!

If someone I'm close to in CAA went MIA, I greatly miss them. If it was a newbie or someone who I don't really know, chances are I would not care as much. I would feel sad though, just as I grieve for a celebrity who died.

Perhaps Dragonslayer, this isn't your original intention for this thread, I shall caution others from judging another in regards with the attention given to certain forum members. As far as I'm concerned, we are not obligated to focus all our attention on everyone. Because we can't due to our limited human will. That's where we call out for help to God, through prayer and reliance on Him.

DragonSlayer wrote: I see less of people being helped here and having there problems solved here than any other form where people simply want to help each other out

??? I don't know where in this board you're seeing this, but everywhere I look here I see people being greatly helped. I can ask just about anything to the people here. Once, I asked them to be drill sergeants (sp?) and keep telling me to e-mail my friend (I kept procrastinating). With their encouragement I wrote her twice in one day!!

DragonSlayer wrote:I have more support from a secular post than here, than I EVER got here, Just think about it.

We're trying to encourage and support you. Believe me. Could it be that you were all too ready to think badly of us the moment you didn't get support?

DragonSlayer wrote:if you realy care, then good, act like it, more people from secualr fourms act like they are christians then I have ever seen you all to be, the ones I saw, yes pretty much all of you,

Hey! My point is this, people on this fourm, act like christians!!!

I'm beginning to see a pattern here. You say we don't act like Christians, yet you don't tell us what we're doing wrong. Give me an example of how we behave wrongly. Also, aren't we acting like we're trying to help by responding to your post? o_O And I've been to enough secular message boards that I think your statement about them was completely incorrect. All the ones I've EVER been to we're a complete mess. No forgiveness for a slight error. Grudge holding. Hatred to everyone that doesn't think exactly like they do. And not to mention cursing. And if that message board is better than here, as you say it is, it sounds like absolute heaven! Please give me the URL so that I can join, too. So returning to the point...tell me how we should act like better Christians. Really, I would like to know.

DragonSlayer wrote:maybe it was jsut me they decided to screw over twice then huh? twice I've been here udner two different names and both times ntohing good has come of it, no bad either but, tell me.

How were you "screwed over" DragonSlayer? I'm truthfully and utterly curious. Nothing good...but nothing bad? You mean you just got bored? What are you expecting here? What "good" do you think hasn't happened to you? If people talk to you with a friendly nature, I would say that is a good thing. If you make friends, is that not good? I agree with whoever said the cookie and jar thing. Have you tried to make friends? I can't imagine anyone trying to make friends here and not being able to. Or have you been telling them they're not acting like Christians the whole time? If so, there's your problem. How can you make friends if you accuse them all the time? We would still love you in Christ, but if we try to be friendly and you accuse us, I'm sure we wouldn't feel very confident about talking to you again. I would like to know your actual problem.

DragonSlayer wrote:Look at your slelf, your lifestyle, your everything and ask yourself, are you really acting like a christian?

Um...DragonSlayer...this is a message board. How do you know if we have a bad lifestyle, if you've never physically met us? And if you can't possibly know about our lifestyle, how can you accuse us of doing wrong? This confuses me.

And yes. I would care if someone killed themself. Anyone here, even if I don't know them very well or even if I don't really like them very much. And if they said they were going to, I would do everything I could to help them out of their depression. And I'm sure that is what nearly everyone else here would do, too. But I have a question for you. If you hate my guts right now (I'm sorry if you do. I'm only trying to help.) and if I killed myself, would you care? Would you really care? I'm not so sure. Just think about it.

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If you don't want to talk about it here. You're always free to PM me. Any time. I love getting PM's no matter what is inside them. I really would like to know your true problem. I want to help. I would like everyone here to be happy, and love each other.
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> As far as I'm concerned, we are not obligated to focus all our attention on everyone.

I think I speak for the mod and admin staff in saying we do our best to serve all the members here, but we are a big group, and we depend on other members to do the same because we can't do it all ourselves either. I'm happy to see that people have stepped up in this thread, too, to point out that they really do care, and so do we in the admin box. The membership here means a lot to us, even within our limitations, and we want to help where we can.

*Wipes a tear away* This is all so....touching! *Sniff*

well, this actually did happen on a board i was on
the guy got in a car accident, and he died. everyone on the board was shocked, we even had a funeral service for him in a chatroom were we talked about the good times we had with him, so yes, i would say i care.

You've checked out the prayer forum right? People give A TON of support there.

just thinkinking about somone dieing from this board made me cry *and I'm in all seriousness* even if I didn't know them, I'd feel really bad cuz' maybe I could've done somthing to help them, and I admit I don't go to the prayer room or the christian growth sections that much, like I should, but yes, it would crush me if somone here died.

and about us not being christian like, I'm also curious about what you think we're not doing right, cuz' I want to know if I could do anything to help, so if you could please maybe PM me or somthing, please feel free too do so, I would really like to help.

DragonSlayer are u thinking of killing your self???well it would make me feel strang becouse i might have talked to that person and thinking of them being dead becouse thay did not like that part of there life....well i would just be freaked out.

Seriously I would care if someone has dies or kill themselves I would pray for them not to kill themselves.

I'd like to remind every one of a couple of things. In dealing with this relatively new medium of computer technology and communication we are beginning to see some ramifications that worry me somewhat as a pastor and especially as a parent.

There is a new generation which is seeking to develop relationships through a means that is very impersonal. In other words, seeking to build lasting friendships and companionships without getting to know individuals face to face. As much as some might try to defend this, I talk to more and more who are hurt, even scared emotionally though these attempts.

While we would hope that when someone mentions a crisis that they are facing in life, we as a Christian community would lift that individual up, we must realize at the same time, because of the unlimited opportunities of deceptiveness of the Internet, we in reality don't know who we are dealing with, sadly even on these boards. While I want to believe that the majority here are indeed believers, that fact remains there is no way of actually knowing. Although this is also true as one looks out at the church on Sunday morning with people you know personally, it is easier to attest to their faith through the testimony they live. Again, this is almost impossible to determine through the Internet.

That said, I would commend and encourage the sharing of prayer requests and struggles and testimonies through this forum. However, if you are going through a deep crisis in life and are in need of counsel to help you, please do not seek that type of help here. Talk to your parents, pastor or Christian family counselor. Lasting answers to your needs will never be found through message boards or chat rooms. Nothing will ever take the place of personal contact in regard to relationships or personal growth and healing.

While I am sure it would sadden many here to lose a member in the way discussed in this thread, it would never be adequately conveyed through smilies or ::sighs:: or ::cries::. Never neglect your real life, face to face friendships and relationships to those found on a 15 or 17 inch screen.

I would feel sorry if I heard someone here died or got killed. But I think I would feel even worse if it was someone that I grew to like as a friend

DragonSlayer wrote:Just think about it. and if you realy care, then good, act like it, more people from secualr fourms act like they are christians then I have ever seen you all to be, the ones I saw, yes pretty much all of you,

Hey! My point is this, people on this fourm, act like christians!!!

Just because I don't post a response to every single prayer request or something doesn't mean I don't care. Sometimes I just don't have the best words to say and I choose not to sometimes because I don't want to end up saying something that'll just make the situation worse. Anyway, that's my error.

EDIT: I agree with you on that Rev.

I totally agree with Rev Doc, and also, no one sees all the PM's that go around. Most of the time when people are dealing with something serious, they might not devote an entire thread to it, and let whoever stumbles across it know.

I also think that maybe since many members are Christians, that maybe that may be a reason why we don't see as many of these suicide notes and such. I know they are around, but it's not all the time, like I've seen on many other sites. We do care.

Rev. Doc u have a point!

Hey, DS I just wanted to let you know that a lot of people have come here to seek help and to make friends, for example, somone by the name Lonleyone came on here looking for a good friend. So I met up with her(I don't know if she was a girl, it didn't say) and we became good friends, but sadly she had to leave, but when she did she let us all know that we changed her and that we made her feel welcome! So all I am saying is we try our best to help others. So if you ever need to talk just PM me or one of the adims they and I will both be very happy to help and talk to you.

I hope I didn't sound mad, cause I have nothing agianst you.

I agree with you to a degree, Rev. Doc. But friends on the internet sure are nice when you have moved recently and don't know many people, yet.

And what about the close friends I left behind? I email them. (Oh, this might not apply since I do actually know them in person.)

i would care if anyone on this site died or even said thery where thinking about it

but i agree there is only so much we can do online. plus we realy don't know most the people on the otherside of the screan (even thought i would like to meet of you face to face it most likly won't happen for about 100 or sooner if the Lord comes )

if i where any of you i would talk God first then to your local church group or family before coming online. they will be able to help you alot more