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Postby teen4truth » Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:34 pm

The 'good old times' never seem so great until they are in the past, where we can never reach them again. Then we realize how wonderful they were.:(

I guess you don't know what you got 'till it's gone.

Sorri, leave it to the crazi emo girl to depress everyone...but I just felt like getting that out and discussing it with anyone who feels the same.:sweat:
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:13 pm

That's why you always remind yourself that what you have is precious. I say that because everything you have won't always carry on with you in the future, so hold them dear when they're still there with you.

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Postby bakura_fan » Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:15 pm

Mr. SmartyPants wrote:That's why you always remind yourself that what you have is precious. I say that because everything you have won't always carry on with you in the future, so hold them dear when they're still there with you.

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>_> like the companion cube in your av, right?

but seriously, yes. It is odd how things tend to be missed once they are in the past.
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Postby ADXC » Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:24 pm

Yeah, sometimes I wish I could go back to some of the hardest times in my life oddly enough because I miss them and they definitely weren't as hard as what Im going through now. But I do miss the good ol' days very much so.
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:36 pm

bakura_fan wrote:>_> like the companion cube in your av, right?

but seriously, yes. It is odd how things tend to be missed once they are in the past.

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Postby Alexander » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:17 am

Mr. SmartyPants wrote:Not in cruelty
Not in wrath
The REAPER came today
An ANGEL visited
this gray path
And took the cube away.


Thankfully I'm engaged to mine.

Yes, there are female companion cubes.

Regardless of what The Enrichment Center would lead you to believe.

For myself, I'm very mixed with my past and present. There are some things I miss about my past, especially my innocence, but at the same time there are things I would literally fight back before having to face them again.

I honestly don't know yet if I can say I'm happier in the present or if I wished to go back to the past.
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Postby Gabriel 9.0 » Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:56 am

So true Teen 4 truth, I miss my grandmother on my mom's side, I'm glad I was able to have a great relationship with her before her passing.
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4For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.



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Postby Bobtheduck » Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:25 am

teen4truth wrote:The 'good old times' never seem so great until they are in the past, where we can never reach them again. Then we realize how wonderful they were.:(

I guess you don't know what you got 'till it's gone.


Too true... to quote the fictional version of Gary Coleman from Avenue Q, "My greatest fear is that I've already achieved my (blank) purpose in life, and I'm just on the long, tiresome road to the grave"

*sigh*

Um... It's funny you brought up the Emo thing... They're ruining it for those of us who are genuinely depressed and need to talk to someone about it. Gah, I hate Emos... It's as if the boy who cried wolf survived, but the wolf got someone else.
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Postby KeybladeWarrior » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:07 am

Yeah, I would like to go back in time to fix the mistakes that I have made. :/
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Postby Okami » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:05 pm

Bobtheduck wrote:Um... It's funny you brought up the Emo thing... They're ruining it for those of us who are genuinely depressed and need to talk to someone about it. Gah, I hate Emos... It's as if the boy who cried wolf survived, but the wolf got someone else.


But what if you're genuinely depressed AND emo? *looks in a mirror* But the wannabes, oh Lord, they are horrible.


I actually, really, REALLY miss my childhood. Back when life was simple and easy, and I was understanding what I was being taught...Back before I was stolen by the internet. Yeah, I miss those years. Can I be four again?
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Postby Nate » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:14 pm

I think there is a trend in this day and age to glamorize the past and look at it through rose colored glasses. The fact is that there's no such thing as "the good old days," it's just what commercials and TV shows would have you believe.

Looking back on the things we enjoyed as kids, most of it wasn't so great. Look at video games. Yeah, there were super awesome games like Mario, and Zelda, but look at most of the other NES games out there. A lot of them were crap, created to be frustratingly hard to create a sense of false replay value. But we loved them, we were too young and naive to realize how terrible the games were. It's only when we fire up the rom and play it that we realize, "Man, this game sucks..." Look at our old TV shows. Yeah, there were some ones that stood the test of time and were awesome, such as Masters of the Universe. But I tried watching Transformers G1, and I loved that show as a kid. But all I can see now are the terrible plots, the deus ex machina going on, and the horrible coloring and animation mistakes. It's just not as good.

High school, quite honestly, was the worst time of my life. Grade school wasn't so hot either, as I really didn't have any friends. The only thing that really makes those days "good" is that I had a loving, wonderful father to raise me. But do you know what? I resented how he disciplined me at the time. I don't anymore, but do you know how much I hated it when he grounded me or spanked me? I only look upon those moments favorably now because I know they helped turn me into a better person.

There are good things and bad things about every part of our life. There was nothing better about our childhood, it's merely our short memories forgetting all the bad things about our early years, because who wants to remember the bad things? We thus thrust out all the bad experiences and keep the good ones, causing us to falsely remember those days as "the good old days."
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Postby bakura_fan » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:21 pm

....what's emo?
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Postby Okami » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:44 pm

Nate wrote:There are good things and bad things about every part of our life. There was nothing better about our childhood, it's merely our short memories forgetting all the bad things about our early years, because who wants to remember the bad things? We thus thrust out all the bad experiences and keep the good ones, causing us to falsely remember those days as "the good old days."


Indeed. And to be honest, you're right. 96% of my childhood I don't remember...there are several years between some of my memories. And many of them, I find hard to piece actual years to them, because I really don't know. For every few good memories, there's half a bad one, it seems. :sweat:

But take all of my seventeen years, and this one is probably my best and worst, for all the obvious reasons.


bakura_fan wrote:....what's emo?



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Emo is also sometimes associated with a certain fashion. Emo clothing is characterized by tight jeans on males and females alike, long fringe (bangs) brushed to one side of the face or over one or both eyes, dyed black, straight hair, tight t-shirts which often bear the names of rock bands (or other designed shirts), studded belts, belt buckles, canvas sneakers or skate shoes or other black shoes (often old and beaten up) and thick, black horn-rimmed glasses. Emo fashion has changed with time. Early trends included straight, unparted hair (similar to that of Romulans and Vulcans in Star Trek), tightly fitting sweaters, button-down shirts, and work jackets. Dress currently may include trackjackets and hoodies. This fashion has at times been characterized as a fad.
In recent years, emo has been associated with a stereotype that includes being emotional, sensitive, shy, introverted, or angsty. It is also associated with depression, self-injury, and suicide.


If I actually had the time, I would have wrote my own summary, but that does some practical justice. For me, it's in my emotion and attitude that classifies me as 'one of them'. Not to mention the other things I discuss in the prayer room...
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Postby Gabriel 9.0 » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:45 pm

Btw Teen for Truth, you're not being Emo.
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:39 pm

Nate wrote:I think there is a trend in this day and age to glamorize the past and look at it through rose colored glasses. The fact is that there's no such thing as "the good old days," it's just what commercials and TV shows would have you believe.

So all the memories I made with people in other countries, and the times I've spent with my friend Josh who passed away nearly two years ago don't really mean much?

I beg to differ. Those are the good old days that I'll never be able to relive again because of the way life likes to play.

And of course, there are things I wish I had done differently in my past.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:42 pm

Wouldn't it be more emo to suggest that things have always been bad, but we fool ourselves into believing they were good once they're past?
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Postby Bobtheduck » Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:23 pm

uc pseudonym wrote:Wouldn't it be more emo to suggest that things have always been bad, but we fool ourselves into believing they were good once they're past?


Well, I miss some 'good old days' that I hardly believe were perfect, and plenty of the 'old days' weren't good at all, but I miss the 'good old days'... Those would be, of course, those old days which were actually good as opposed to the old ones which sucked. I'd have hated to live some parts of my life over, but since my biggest problem at age 6 was my horrific allergies, and my allergies are back to that point again, I honestly miss my pre-teen, pre-pubescent, pre-hormonal, pre-911, pre-doubt days where my biggest problems were being forced to eat vegetables or clean my room... Well, my real biggest problem would be easily solved if I knew then what I know now. If I went back then knowing what I know now, I would be able to kick some butt when people tried to take advantage of me, so I'd have a lot of advantages... Plus, I could at least make bets on who'd be nominated for the elections... Under a false name and info, of course.

If I went back to being 4:

I'd take martial arts and be a black belt by the time I was an adult.
I'd take up my high school's offer to pay for my college classes so I would have gotten an AA (in gen ed) before I graduated high school, and gotten it for free.
I'd not make some of the mistakes over that i made back then.
I'd invest in some companies just as they took off... Such as Apple right as the iPod launches.
I'd make backups of all the cool stuff I found on the internet back in the mid '90s that disappeared shortly afterward.
I'd make sure my parents never threw away my starwars toys, NES games, comic books, and micromachines... And dumped all those old, crappy McDonald's sets they kept to sell later for money that are now just as worthless as they were then.
I'd try to keep an old friend from dying when he shouldn't have.

At the same time, I wouldn't want to see some things over again... Some of my friends that have become Christians BEFORE that event, for instance. Or some of the more painful moments in my life that would have been impossible to avoid... Getting close to (and watching die) a number of people.
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Postby Mave » Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:22 pm

I'll just say that while I miss certain things in those 'good old days' of mine, I'm also enjoying the good present days as well. There's very little that's going on currently that makes me want to greatly desire going back to the past. It's like having pros and cons in every stage of your life.

E.g.

Kid: No responsibilities YAY, no independance UGH
Adult: Much responsibilities UGH, much independance YAY

For me, it works out quite nicely in the end. ^^
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Postby Sakaki Onsei » Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:04 pm

While I do not believe in going back and reliving my childhood, had I known then what I know now...

I would have bought more Cassette Tapes, recorded more music off the radio, then archived them in order to make certain that I had songs from the 80s to last me forever. >_>
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Postby Lady Arianrod » Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:46 pm

Mave wrote:I'll just say that while I miss certain things in those 'good old days' of mine, I'm also enjoying the good present days as well. There's very little that's going on currently that makes me want to greatly desire going back to the past. It's like having pros and cons in every stage of your life.

E.g.

Kid: No responsibilities YAY, no independance UGH
Adult: Much responsibilities UGH, much independance YAY

For me, it works out quite nicely in the end. ^^


I agree with the independence vs. responsibility thing. I sometimes long for the days of the Nintendo 64 and Nickelodeon, but I enjoy my current life as a grad student also. I wouldn't go back in time at all!

I try to avoid thinking about the past sometimes because of my tendency to wish for simpler times. I have to remind myself of the many blessings and opportunities I have now.
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Postby Alexander » Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:13 pm

I think it honestly differs from person to person in what we feel about our lives, although I personally think my life is fine today as it was 11 or 12 years ago.

If there was one thing I could have changed, I simply wished my parents would have tried to find out about Asperger's Syndrome and get me diagnosed at a very young age then having to wait (and still waiting for an official) for a diagnosis. I could have avoided a lot of wrong steps along the way.

Otherwise, I don't have much of a past to go back to. I have more friends (even if they're online) today then I did in the past, although they were a lot easier to make back then then today.

I also miss my innocence. Things were a lot calmer and filled with a lot more wonder when I had it. Although arguably I still have some of it.
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Postby teen4truth » Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:28 pm

too many peeps posted for me to read them all tonight, I'm supposed to be getting off now...but I'll get back on and read them all tomorrow. Thanks for replying, guys.
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Postby Desu » Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:14 pm

teen4truth wrote:The 'good old times' never seem so great until they are in the past, where we can never reach them again. Then we realize how wonderful they were.:(

I guess you don't know what you got 'till it's gone.

Sorri, leave it to the crazi emo girl to depress everyone...but I just felt like getting that out and discussing it with anyone who feels the same.:sweat:


I don't think they're always so good. They only appear good because they can't be reached immediately (or ever again). It's like this in history. Americans like to talk about the "Good 'ole Days" where crime was low, life was good and everything was moral and Christian. This couldn't be farther from the truth, a world like that never really existed. Yeah, things can be depressing if you look to the past but really, it's best to live in the present.
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Postby kat-su-chan » Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:46 pm

ohh nostalgia. (siggggh)
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Postby ShiroiHikari » Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:54 am

Nate (post: 1185284) wrote:Looking back on the things we enjoyed as kids, most of it wasn't so great. Look at video games. Yeah, there were super awesome games like Mario, and Zelda, but look at most of the other NES games out there. A lot of them were crap, created to be frustratingly hard to create a sense of false replay value. But we loved them, we were too young and naive to realize how terrible the games were. It's only when we fire up the rom and play it that we realize, "Man, this game sucks..." Look at our old TV shows. Yeah, there were some ones that stood the test of time and were awesome, such as Masters of the Universe. But I tried watching Transformers G1, and I loved that show as a kid. But all I can see now are the terrible plots, the deus ex machina going on, and the horrible coloring and animation mistakes. It's just not as good.


Even as a big retro enthusiast, I find it very easy to agree with you. Especially on the point of G1 Transformers. Seriously, it's one of the worst shows ever]There are good things and bad things about every part of our life. There was nothing better about our childhood, it's merely our short memories forgetting all the bad things about our early years, because who wants to remember the bad things? We thus thrust out all the bad experiences and keep the good ones, causing us to falsely remember those days as "the good old days."[/QUOTE]

I actually remember quite a few bad things from my early years. There is a blurry part for a year or two, and even some parts where I don't remember many good things at all. I don't even begin to pretend that my childhood was all roses. But the good memories from back then are worth cherishing, so I make it a point to do so.
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Postby Mangafanatic » Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:39 am

I agree with those who have posted already. I think, in most cases, we long for the good old days not because they were actually better, but because we were less informed. We didn't know what we were missing, and, in many cases, we didn't know about all the bad stuff that was happening above our 3' 10" heads.

I guess we just have to live every day like it's the good old days, 'cause one day--ten years from now-- we'll probably look back on it and say "Ah, the good old days."
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Postby mitsuki lover » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:42 am

It would be nice to go back and do things a bit differently.Of course then you only end up by making an entirely DIFFERENT set of mistakes.Which would make you end up regretting them,etc.Such thinking can end up becoming a bit of a vicious circle.

Although back in the day('60s & '70s mainly)they did have a lot better shows and the comedies were funnier.
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Postby Tyrel » Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:37 pm

teen4truth (post: 1185072) wrote:The 'good old times' never seem so great until they are in the past, where we can never reach them again. Then we realize how wonderful they were.:(

I guess you don't know what you got 'till it's gone.

Sorri, leave it to the crazi emo girl to depress everyone...but I just felt like getting that out and discussing it with anyone who feels the same.:sweat:


you know, there is a Christian Hardcore Band that made an album once called "nothing is dead, nothing is bleeding, everything is alive, everything is breathing".

Their point was that people have far too bleak an outlook. I find I enjoy myself just fine most of the time, and when I come, later, to recognize how important or awesome something in my past really was, I don't feel like I missed out on feeling that way previously. I feel more like I'm thankful that I've reflected on it in such a great way.
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Postby termyt » Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:47 am

Mave (post: 1185345) wrote:I'll just say that while I miss certain things in those 'good old days' of mine, I'm also enjoying the good present days as well. There's very little that's going on currently that makes me want to greatly desire going back to the past. It's like having pros and cons in every stage of your life.

E.g.

Kid: No responsibilities YAY, no independance UGH
Adult: Much responsibilities UGH, much independance YAY

For me, it works out quite nicely in the end. ^^

With great freedom comes great responsibility? Where's Stan Lee when we need him?

I'm rather grateful for the way our memories work here. I like remembering the "good old days" and I'm glad the struggles of the past are less likely to be recalled while reminiscing.

If anything, this should be a less to us on what is most important to focus on here in the present. If we tend to remember the fun times with friends and family or whatever instead of the things we were stressing about in the past, how much more should we be focusing today on the things we will remember instead of the things that will fade?
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