Swearing in anime/manga/media? o_oa

[MomoAdachi]

I don't like swearing in entertainment, as I think it's unnessasary, but I can tolerate it and in my imagination replace it with another, less vulgar word with a similar meaning. I also avoid manga and anime that uses profanity to an extreme amount, like at least once in every sentence. I really don't like it when, like in dubs, they throw in profanity pretty much just for the heck of it.

[Bobtheduck]

Here's a link to an old discussion on this matter: http://www.christiananime.net/showthread.php?t=18866

This discussion really does get old, but it pops up about once or twice a year... I wish it were DnD, personally, but that woudl just be to force "self control" on myself since it is an issue that I get heated up about...

[Bap]

Ah! o_o I wasn't expecting so many replies. xD

But I'd like to thank you all for your posts. 8D It's helped me very much. ^-^b

And, sorry, didn't know this was a heated topic for discussion. @o@;;

[DrNic]

This discussion really does get old, but it pops up about once or twice a year... I wish it were DnD, personally, but that woudl just be to force "self control" on myself since it is an issue that I get heated up about...

Thing is, you could just stamp a DnD label on everything once it's been discussed, but that would just be limiting conversation. E.g classic games (Final Fantasy, Metroid, SSBM etc etc) would be DnD, most current affairs topics would become DnD, most things to do with music would probably become DnD, most anime would become DnD... you get the picture. Fact is, things are gonna come up again sometimes, and as new people join, there will be people that haven't discussed a certain topic.

Sorry if thats OT. Just thought it needed to be said.

[Steeltemplar]

I think that we can all agree, though, that there is one particularly foul word which is inappropriate for us to mention: "Belgium".

I hope I won't get a strike for saying that <.< >.>

[Warrior 4 Jesus]

Belgium? What's wrong with Belgium? It's home to the best cartoon character ever - Tintin!

[Steeltemplar]

Belgium? What's wrong with Belgium? It's home to the best cartoon character ever - Tintin!

It's a reference to a book (see the link above, sorry for putting it in belatedly). Nothing's wrong with Belgium.

[Warrior 4 Jesus]

Okay, that's cool. I wasn't going mental. (lol)
Hitchhiker's Guide is very good. I can't believe I didn't pick up your reference.

[Steeltemplar]

Okay, that's cool. I wasn't going mental. (lol)
Hitchhiker's Guide is very good. I can't believe I didn't pick up your reference.

Yes! It is one of the greats

[Bobtheduck]

Thing is, you could just stamp a DnD label on everything once it's been discussed, but that would just be limiting conversation. E.g classic games (Final Fantasy, Metroid, SSBM etc etc) would be DnD, most current affairs topics would become DnD, most things to do with music would probably become DnD, most anime would become DnD... you get the picture. Fact is, things are gonna come up again sometimes, and as new people join, there will be people that haven't discussed a certain topic.

Actually, no, the reason I said it should be DnD is because it gets so heated, and the fact it comes up again and again is an annoyance because it means another generation of heated argument.

Which is why the anime that became DnD became DnD.

[Kanerou]

*shrugs* I honestly think media could do without it. I've read stories that are great, and there was no cussing whatsoever in them. However, I agree that sometimes, someone is just..... P.O.'d, shall we say. I don't have to expose myself to it, and if I do, my old habit could be irritated. But as far as its being in other people's works.... eh, nevermind. That's too dicey. I'll just leave it at what I said.

Um.... techincally.... isn't this a discussion of its being in the media? Must it get off into the rest of it, or are they just irreversibly connected?

[Kaligraphic]

I suspect that the use of such and such a word in media is tightly linked to its presence in the audience's general vocabulary. If a common word is substituted, dialog will sound unnatural, and if an uncommon word is used a lot in a work, it will also sound unnatural.

But seriously, folks, saying one word in place of another cannot make you any more or less holy - You can say s**t or shoot, and God's fine with either. What He cares about is the state of your heart. Are you trying to be holy in your own ability by talking a certain way? Then you need humility, so that you recognize that the only thing that makes you holy is Jesus' blood. Are you deliberately using certain words to get rid of people just because they're not walking in the same level of freedom that you are? Perhaps love is your area. We all have our areas where God is working on us - why should we judge one another when we're no better?

thus, unless you don't need or want the covering of the blood of Jesus, we need to stop judging people - we need to stop judging ourselves and others, and start seeing ourselves and others as being as innocent as the Jesus' blood says we are.

[Syreth]

Romans 12:18
If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men.

One reason I hold back from using that kind of language is that it would offend many people that I work with in ministry and my family. That's a good enough reason for me anyways. It doesn't have much to do with judging anyone, I just don't want to offend them.

[Puritan]

I suspect that the use of such and such a word in media is tightly linked to its presence in the audience's general vocabulary. If a common word is substituted, dialog will sound unnatural, and if an uncommon word is used a lot in a work, it will also sound unnatural.

I think that, at this point, the two are partially interconnected. The media (TV, anime, music, and movies) uses swear words because they are acceptable to society, and society uses swear words because (among other reasons) they hear them in the things they listen to. However, it seems to me that many things use swear words far more than I hear in my life (and I go to a pretty typical college campus, which means there is a good bit of profanity thrown around). Many shows use swear words to try and be funny, or, in my opinion, because they just won't take the time to write dialog that doesn't involve swearing. Think about it, most movies or television shows that have swearing use it far more than people do in real life unless you're around a particularly foul-mouthed crowd. While there are a number of reasons for it, it seems like swearing is used because it is the simplest way to provoke a reaction. You could easily write dialog for most things that leaves out the profanity without seeming strange or stilted, but since it's easier to do, people write in swear words.

I can understand profanity being used at times, but what we see in much of the media today involves swear words used almost obsessively, as if we HAVE to have swearing, and loads of it, anytime someone gets angry or whenever it might seem funny. And that, to me, is a problem. It indicates laziness in our use of language and an acceptance of profanity used without reason, and it indicates a lack of decorum on the part of our society. While we can discuss the morality of profanity (or lack therof) for a long time, I think most of us can agree that it shouldn't be used for laughs or simply to cover poor writing skills. I don't look down on people for swearing, but I do think it is irresponsible and degrading to our language for profanity to be used constantly by all manner of media, and for this to be considered acceptable. If people swear in media let them do so in private and sparingly or when it makes sense rather than making it seem acceptable to swear a blue streak at the slightest provocation.

[Arnobius]

Sometimes I think profanity really mars a program. Take Deadwood from HBO. It is an outstanding series and well acted, but it has what I think is an excessive level of profanity. I don't doubt that people back then in a lawless town used rough language, but I found myself doubting that they really sounded like Eric Cartman from South Park, and I think this detracted from the series.

[Heart of Sword]

My opinion...

Swearing by a good character....I usually hate it.

Swearing by an evil character....acceptable...they're a villain; why would a villain care about whether or not they're offending someone?

[CAAOutkast]

me i don't mind swearing in my anime and magnas and games.... as long as the F-Bomb isn't used more than once {it would be even better if the F-bomb wasn't used at all}. oh and porno in games,manga,and anime is just pathetic.

see ya,
steve