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Postby BigZam » Tue Dec 21, 2004 1:15 pm

Will someone please confirm this for me? My friend told me that anime, in Japan, is a dying art and is mostly for little kids and that Americans are just making a big deal out of it. Does anybody know if there's any truth in this?
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Postby c.t.,girl » Tue Dec 21, 2004 1:28 pm

:O nooooooo!!! i hope not!! if we here keep this up then they will get sick of it probably and americans will be the ones to do anime and i think the stuff in Japan is soooooo much better...then again who doesn't? lol i hope someone can answer this question for the both of us now! T_T don't die anime!!!
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Postby Chazz » Tue Dec 21, 2004 1:32 pm

BakemonoSensei wrote:Will someone please confirm this for me? My friend told me that anime, in Japan, is a dying art and is mostly for little kids and that Americans are just making a big deal out of it. Does anybody know if there's any truth in this?


100% truth

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Postby bigsleepj » Tue Dec 21, 2004 1:32 pm

Hmmm. I'd say your friend is maybe perpetuating an urban myth. I have read that some of the anime productions companies have been having a bad year, but then again so did many other film companies around the world. One bad year, or even two, does not mean the end of an entire artistic culture.

I mean, Otomo's "Steamboy" did very well this year and "Howl's Moving Castle" by Miyazaki is breaking box-office records over there. There might be grain of truth in what your friend said, but in any case it seems highly unlikely.
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Postby ZiP » Tue Dec 21, 2004 1:33 pm

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Postby c.t.,girl » Tue Dec 21, 2004 1:35 pm

>_< which is it?! true or false?! T_T i'm so comfused!!! *runs around screaming*
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Postby Kura Ookami » Tue Dec 21, 2004 1:56 pm

Anime has been around in Japan for ages now so i dont think it's going to stop production. How long has anime been in circulation now? At least two decades i believe. I think it's very unlikely that anime will die. :)
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Postby Jman » Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:50 pm

NoOoOoOOo!!
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Postby ShiroiHikari » Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:53 pm

anime has been around longer than twenty years. it's been more like forty years. and I don't think it will be going away anytime soon. it might be a slow time for anime but as far as I know, the Japanese economy isn't doing great either. so that's probably the reason for the slowdown. someone care to confirm/correct?
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Postby Hitokiri » Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:01 pm

Everything has to come to an end...good and bad. It's only a matter of time that the Japanese may lose intrest in the anime style of drawing an it will go by the way side But I don't see that for a long time from now (10 - 15 years maybe).
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Postby Ashley » Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:02 pm

From what I've heard, manga has been around even since like the shogun era (of course it's changed a lot since then but the concept was there). Anime is such a huge part of the Japanese culture (and their #1 export, I'd imagine) that I seriously doubt it'd go away any time soon. In simply economic terms, think how much money the country would lose if they stopped producing it--the US isn't the only buyer, but also europe and asia....they're making billions of dollars just on serialization alone. That's not to mention manga, merchandise, etc. I seriously doubt they'd outright stop it.
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Postby Arnobius » Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:15 pm

BakemonoSensei wrote:Will someone please confirm this for me? My friend told me that anime, in Japan, is a dying art and is mostly for little kids and that Americans are just making a big deal out of it. Does anybody know if there's any truth in this?

While this sounds like a distorted view, there is some truth in the claim that it is considered mostly for little kids. This is not ignoring the fact that anime for older audiences exists, but it does seem that the Japanese look at people who follow anime too much beyond a certain age as being kind of strange. Many of the shows are intended for a younger audience in Japan than the Americans who watch it are. I love Sailor Moon, but in Japan the demographic was for girls aged 8-12.

As for the claim that anime is dying out, I don't think so. COnsider this link
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Postby Syreth » Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:23 pm

I don't know how well the anime market is doing right now, but all i've heard about anime from artists and such is that it's the highest selling and most produced art form in the world. Maybe this is an inaccurate statement, but it seems to be somewhat true by experience. There was a group of people at my Bible college who were keeping up with Naruto.
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Postby Esoteric » Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:52 pm

Yeah I doubt that's true. Everything goes in phases. Here in the U.S. an art trend tends to last about seven years, then it shifts to something new. Anime will certainly be no different. It may experience something like what is occuring here (Disney leaving a dull vacuum after years of wonderful animated movies.) But animation won't ever completely disappear here. Neither will anime.
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Postby Tidus20 » Tue Dec 21, 2004 6:13 pm

I hope not... Invader Zim is put out by anime works...
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Postby Arnobius » Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:06 pm

Esoteric wrote:Yeah I doubt that's true. Everything goes in phases. Here in the U.S. an art trend tends to last about seven years, then it shifts to something new. Anime will certainly be no different. It may experience something like what is occuring here (Disney leaving a dull vacuum after years of wonderful animated movies.) But animation won't ever completely disappear here. Neither will anime.

True. There were those of us who liked it before it became popular and we'll probably still be there when it goes out of style...
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Postby CobaltAngel » Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:15 pm

Even if this is true - don't you think enough americans are in love with it by now that if it dies in Japan people here will pick it up? I mean, look at all the online manga. ;)
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Postby SpikeSpiegel306 » Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:21 pm

Ok, I shall clear it up! The fact of the matter is...anime is not dying my friends. You have no worries there, Japan still puts out Mangas and Anime Shows on quite a regular basis. In actuality, the art of anime is not dying...the artists of anime are! Many many many shows have quit producing new episodes due to the death of a writer or producer, but other companies are begining to realize this problem and taking the initiative to buy the rights back and restart the production of some of the lost shows. (Gundam Seed is a prime example of this)

All in all, do not fret my friends, the sun has not yet even started its downward climb on the world of anime.

I hope I helped clear some stuff up.
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Postby Little T-chan » Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:16 pm

OH MY GOODNESS!!! I was holding my breath!!!!! @.@;; That was a bad scare!!!!!! AHHHH!!
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Postby Warrior 4 Jesus » Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:21 pm

Japanese wood engraving art + Disney art = manga/anime
That's how it was born and its the lifeblood of Japan, so I highly doubt it.
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Postby Aka-chan » Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:41 pm

It sure was thriving when I visited last year. ^__^
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Postby SpikeSpiegel306 » Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:12 pm

You visited Japan? Sweet! Where did you go if I may ask...
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Postby Marie-Novelle » Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:10 pm

So what if anime is made primarily for children?

Personally, I like Captain Tsubasa and Sherlock Hound.
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Postby John316 » Wed Dec 22, 2004 6:41 am

They've been saying this for 10+ years. I don't think there's a shred of truth to it. What your friend could have heard was the average Japanese adult opinion on anime: "I watched it when I was a kid, but adults who watch anime are losers and pedophilic serial killers." (This is also the true connotation of the term "Anime Otaku" in Japan) It's for a very good reason I usually don't bring up anime in a conversation with anyone Japanese.
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Postby Kisa » Wed Dec 22, 2004 12:33 pm

WOW, I hope not... it seems like there are more and more coming out everyday, so I wouldn't think so.... cartoons in any form are always in style ^^
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Postby BigZam » Thu Dec 23, 2004 11:02 am

whoa i didn't expect so many replies.....well this friend of mine isn't much into anime anyway but he does have a fetish with always being right....
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Postby Jeikobu » Sat Dec 25, 2004 1:00 pm

I pray anime lives on strongly until the Messiah returns. IMO it's still miles and miles ahead of most other cartoons. The only cartoons that I think compete are most Marvel/DC Comics-related shows, and I still take most anime over most of them. The vast majority of anime are high quality and wonderful in almost every aspect, except a good many sadly have some spiritual problems, being that it's from a pretty much God-less nation. :'( But the storylines are very often excellent and very creative and entertaining, the characters are deep and you can really get behind them, the animation is top-notch and very creative, the music is often beautiful and well orchestrated, the list goes on. GO ANIME!! LIVE ON!! ^^
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