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[Needle Noggin]

Regarding the summary of this board...n00b is an offensive thing to call someone. Newb is the correct term.

n00b= Loud, annoying, people who think they are awsome at something even tough they stink at the game or whatever.

Newb/Newbie = Someone who is new at something

Just thought I would clear that up.

[true_noir_chloe]

Thanks, I never knew that. ^____^

[skynes]

He's right. The same word does have a different meaning. His discription is right. N00bs usually get banned very quickly...

[Needle Noggin]

No it is most forums actually. I learned most of my "internet knowlegde" from GameFAQs and n00b is an offesive term there as well as alot of other sites.

EDIT: Why was this topic moved? It had to do with the Welcome Area board.

[Kaligraphic]

Some people regard the terms as being the same, while others regard the form 'newb' as being kinder than 'n00b'.

In any case, people who do really stupid stuff in games (like dropping grenades in the middle of their formation, teamkilling through idiocy, and basically acting like they have no idea what they're doing) are more likely to be called n00bs. Likewise stuff like posting on message boards with bad spelling, bad grammar, and no apparent attempt at basic etiquette. The term is also applied to people who try to make stupid and obviously incorrect statements while asserting that they have knowledge of the area - an assertion typically disproven by the content of their claim. "You know, Microsoft has never worked with IBM hardware, ever." or "Half-life was the first game ever to feature a 3d environment."

Newb is more often used to denote inexperience - for instance, someone who is trying to learn, or who maybe is just really bad at throwing grenades, but at least knows that they're supposed to be thrown at the enemy. In a forum, they may still be rough on the spelling, grammar, and even etiquette, but at least they're trying. It can also be used to denote newness to a particular community (and therefore inexperience in the local conditions), but this meaning is more common on the form 'newbie' than on the shortened 'newb'.

newb and noob/n00b do overlap in meaning and usage somewhat, and I've seen people argue that all-alphabetic forms (newb and noob) are a bit milder than the l33tsp34k forms (n3wb/n00b), but I'd take that with a grain of salt. Also, to really contradict what I just said, sometimes the word (any form) is simply used playfully, and isn't an insult at all (or at least, not a real one).)

I would have just searched wikipedia for its article and posted the address, but I'm bored right now. And, in other news, if you read through this post, you're a noob. (j/k;))

*edit* I may as well post the wikipedia address anyway, for those who want to see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newbie */edit*

[Felix]

Thanx.
I read through your post so I guess that makes me a noob, right? j/k

[John316]

Newb is almost always used in a friendly manner. n00b is usually disparaging, but it depends on context. For instance sometimes I use the term on myself in a lighthearted self-deprecating manner.

Example:
(After forgetting to turn on TeamSpeak in CoH)
Doh. <- Total n00b :p

[glitch1501]

i agree, newbie is a kinder term
n00b is more of an "im better than you" type of thing

[Mangafanatic]

That's funny. I rarely use the second one, but when I do it's always a term of endearment, not a put down. . .

[Mr. SmartyPants]

it is true that a n00b tends to be more offensive, like in cs and such

but actually, i think that both are on the same level of offensiveness

you see, n00b started as noob, but typed in leet speak. ya know... 1337 5|>34|<

so yeah, kinda weird that a 1337 speak thing turned out offensive

[Fsiphskilm]

lol, I never use

[Roy Mustang]

I have use the word Newbie alll the time. I never like the world Noob at all and I would never say it to anyone, if they may have upset me because I know that using noob would be upseting to them.


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[CobaltAngel]

LOL, yes that was bugging me. CAA is the only place where I've heard n00b be used as a newbie in general. I know alot of people who love newbs, but I've never met a person who loves n00bs. Sometimes n00bs are know to do this as well:

N00b: Why can't I...!!!!
Random member: That's because...
N00b: You're not a mod! You don't know what you're talking about! Oh, and why can't I... either!!!

It's also kind of funny when a n00b tries to answer a question and they're completely wrong. Or they think they can lock threads.

[Aka-chan]

I didn't know that. ^__^ But I don't use the term (in either form) unless I'm referring to myself or using it endearingly in response to someone who has already used it to talk about themself.

[Kinkosami]

But I don't use the term (in either form) unless I'm referring to myself or using it endearingly in response to someone who has already used it to talk about themself.

Same here.

I try not to call anybody any type of name that could be taken as offensive. Because over the Internet, there's no emotion in your words, they're just words on the screen. So things can be taken wrong very easily.

I usually just use the term 'New person' or something like that... I avoid Internet speak all together... usually anyway.

[Kisa]

Thanks for the clear up, I never realized there was a difference ^^''

[Hitokiri]

The informal term newbie (n00b or noob in leet (1337) -speak, is not the same.) means a newcomer to a particular corner of cyberspace, such as a web log, newsgroup, or the World Wide Web itself or to an operating system. It can be both a disparaging and friendly term; always referring to a neophyte. It is often used against a new user apt to ask allegedly "dumb" questions and who generally acts gauchely and uncool, to the consternation or amusement of the old hands. Due to their inexperience, they are often picked on or have an unsatisfying welcome. If friendly to the place, they tend to learn more and stay; if not friendly, they tend to be "kicked out" or ostracized from that place.

The term is also used by individuals or groups, known as regs, against any newcomer, whether the newcomer acts ignorantly or not. In this case, the regs attempt to show dominance by belittling the newbie. The newbie will be teased, and if the newbie reacts, the regs then use the reactions as justifications for the originally unjustified belittlements. (pulled this from fact-index.com ^_^)

I do think it should be changed to either noob or newbie.

[Mithrandir]

Huh. I didn't figure any one here would care all that much, but it appears tha there is some discussion going on here. I'll see if I can get this changed some time later today. Thanks for your input everyone!

[Mithrandir]

Do me a favor, will you? See if you can track down all the links you think should be changed. That will make it easier for me to make any changes.

Thanks!

[Heart of Sword]

I'll help! ^_^ *wolfhowl*

*runs off*