On Loosing One's Religion

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Postby Fsiphskilm » Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:38 am

I never said that everyone goes to Heaven. Nor would I want it that way. I've done my part and I worked hard to earn my ticket. And I would feel very ashamed and dissapointed if some idiot that doesn't have a single care in the world got a free ride to heaven.

Let me quess, someone's going to mension something about Salvation being free... Yes I know, but that's all just nit picking, everyone understands what I'm saying.

I"M NOT PROTECTING THE WORLD... I'm justfully saying to the Christians of our Generation "Back OFF" and Stop acting like you know where everyone is going. You don't know God nor the way he makes Judgments Things like Heaven or Hell aren't for you to even bet on... it's none of anyone's bussiness.

I've thought it to be really disrespectful for anyone to sit down and start guessing and predicting whos going where when they die. It's none of anyone's business.



EireWolf wrote:Volt, the truth is that NOBODY "deserves" Heaven. ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Christians will not go to Heaven because they're better than everyone else -- they will go to Heaven because they've accepted the gift that God has given them through His Son.
YES, many people will end in hell. I'm not trying to be nice, or butter up the barbed wire. The truth is this... The way I see it.. WE DO deserve heaven...if we didn't... Jesus wouldn't of died for us... If we're really all so Sinful and Pointless and stupid then God wouldn't of suffered for us...

We have fallen [b]Short of the Glory of Heaven but we haven't Fallen completely[/b] One day though... society will have banished it'self from Heaven and when that day comes You can talk about whos going to hell all ya want. Until then, you never know.

I do sympathize with your view. I would love to believe that no one will go to Hell. It's a nice thing to believe. But "nice" and "true" are not always synonymous. How can you say atheists will go to Heaven when God's word says this: "Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?" (2 Corinthians 6:14)


I said I know some Atheists who deserve heaven more than some christians I know... I'm comparing the idea of life style, morality, good ideals, and human compassion. So I'm judging on sin? I guess so, that's what made us fall short of the glory of heaven didn't it? A Good person who rejects God still Rejects God and I'm not going to protect them... they made their chioce... I'm trying to protect the people who never got to even make a chioce... The poeple who never even herd of God, they don't know who Jesus IS! And it's sad to hear christian buddies of mine say things like "they're going to hell"...

Only God knows who will be with Him in paradise. It is not for us to judge -- only God knows the hearts of each of us, including self-proclaimed atheists. Regardless, Christ commanded His followers to "go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you." (Matt 28:19-20)

You're right that the greatest thing is love. We are to love EVERYONE, including non-Christians. And part of that love is telling them the truth. Not pounding our Bibles and shouting at them and calling them hellbound sinners... but telling them the Truth that we know. Not judging them for not yet knowing the Truth, for we were once where they are... But not being afraid to tell them the Truth.


I don't like the idea that out of know where everyone's assuming I'm trying to preach some type of New Age... "Lets all go to heaven" message. If anyone rejects God then they can simply go whereever they want.

But to condem and talk about all poeple going here and there. It's just not anyone's place. God understand's Each and every person's Unique Situation. People have this idea like God's Judgement sistem is something that they can understand. ANd it's not. Just wiat, your first day inthe afterlife and you might just meet somebody you never thought you'd expect to see in heaven.
I'm leaving CAA perminantly. i've wanted to do this for a long time but I've never gathered the courage to let go.
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Postby Ashley » Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:37 am

You know what, this is really getting quite out of hand and probably should have been stopped a long time ago--I see a lot of radically different theologies coming out and as we have always said, we have neither the time, desire, or manpower to manage these types of debates. Discussion closed; further conversation can be taken to PMs.
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