sry about this

[Nataku]

but I do need assistance asap.

Ok well I wont go over the whole situation thats going on right now but I will say the main point.

Ok there's this guy manipulating a girl (my best friend) to be with him by constantly saying things like "What you just did confirms God wants us to be together?" "Because of this God wants us together" etc etc

Of course those are lies, the guy is supposedly called to be a pastor and he is also using that to influence the girl. Unfortunately she wont listen to my words even though Ive been with her through everything (shes pushing me away) so now Im seeking help and I know my other best friend told me there was a verse that proves his lying but I dont know where it is.

Can you guys help me? Prayers too would be nice

[Sammy Boy]

I don't know which verse you are referring to, but, what is the girl's parents' stance in all this?

Is there a chance you and her, along with her parents and your other best friend, can have a sit down chat about it (though that would be somewhat difficult because the girl may simply say it's none of your business)?

[bigsleepj]

Tis is a fragile situation. I think Ultra Magnus' suggestion is a good one. But you should be careful not to push it too hard or it would make her angry and then too stubborn to be reasonable. It's a delicate situation, and I'll pray that you'll be able to work it out.

[termyt]

I would just support her in whatever decision she makes. You can't force someone to change their minds and trying to do so will only drive a wedge between you. I believe that any person in love should find out what friends and family think about anyone they are serious about. If there are a lot of objections, it could indicate they see something that love has blinded you to. But you can not tell some in love to do this. They need to seek this out on their own. (Remember this when it is you that is in love).

I would ask myself some questions before I got serious about risking friendship.

1. Is she in danger? While I tend to doubt assertions like "this proves God is on my side yadda yadda" as propaganda designed to convince people to do things they would not normally do, that does not automatically mean this guy is a vicious predator out to devour your friend. I would certainly say to her that that kind of rhetoric is suspicious, but as long as he is not asking her to do things she knows is wrong, then you do not have sufficient grounds to intervene. If she is in danger, then you have a duty as a friend to intervene even at the risk of the friendship itself.

2. Are your own feelings interfering with your ability to rationally look at this situation? Are you jealous of her relationship with the other guy? Are you in love with her? Please understand that I am not trying to accuse you of wrong doing, nor do I want you to answer these questions in open forum. I do not know you or your friend or the other guy, so I ask these questions for you to examine yourself. If your own emotions cloud your judgment then you are doing your friend and yourself a disservice.

Finally, an important note. Whenever you confront someone about a lifestyle choice, you automatically assume that you, yourself, are coming from position number one above. However, when you are confronted, you automatically assume the person confronting you is coming from position number 2. It is vital, then, and wholly the responsibility of the person doing the confronting, that he come from position number one.

Just as I said that the person in love should seek advice from their loved ones, so should the confronter seek advice from that person’s loved ones. If no one else objects to this boy, then are you sure you are doing this for the right reasons? If there is even a possibility that you are not, apologize, state why you felt strongly enough to risk friendship over this issue, and back off. If many of the other people important to her agree with you, then approach her together out of love and state clearly why you object.

If, even after all of this, she rejects your council and the council of her other friends, drop it. Support her, be her friend, but don’t hound her or you will loose her friendship forever.

[Nataku]

Well her parents dont know much about the boy and well are asking questions and stuff. Well all of her friends (which are mine) feel that she is doing wrong. We will support her no matter what but also this girl is very different from others.

She's highly emotional and very sensitive and has constiantly made bad decisions and is easily manipulated by anyone saying they come from God (several ppl have told her God does not want her to play games/view this and that/ etc).

Oh and Im not blinded by my own emotions (at the beginning of this I was). The simple fact is I cant stand someone using God like this but of course God will take care of all who do such a thing.

In the end I know all will be fine and there's nothing for me to fear. I will simply keep praying and maybe talk to her one more time (I know her other friends want too).