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rpg without magic

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:45 am
by jayquam
does anyone know of a good rpg that doesnt have magic in it?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:52 am
by GrubbTheFragger
Knight of the old republic is all i can thing but they still have the force.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:56 am
by Kkun
Can I just point out the hilarity that someone is concerned about magic in an RPG but is quoting the Boondocks in their signature?

Is that funny to anyone else? Anyone? Oh, it must just be me.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:03 am
by Radical Dreamer
Umm...I...don't think one exists. XD Well, other than KOTOR, but...uh...hahahah, yeah. XD

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:15 am
by TheMelodyMaker
Yes. It's called The Traveller's Guide. ^_^

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:32 am
by Myoti
Sigma Star Saga for GBA is the first thing that comes to mind, mostly due to it's more sci-fi nature. The Megaman Battle Network series doesn't technically have any either, and I think Wild Arms is exempt as well (though I haven't played).

Can I just point out the hilarity that someone is concerned about magic in an RPG but is quoting the Boondocks in their signature?

Is that funny to anyone else? Anyone? Oh, it must just be me.

Actually, yes, I was thinking the same thing.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:38 am
by GrubbTheFragger
Kkun wrote:Can I just point out the hilarity that someone is concerned about magic in an RPG but is quoting the Boondocks in their signature?

Is that funny to anyone else? Anyone? Oh, it must just be me.



I didn't even notice that HAHAAHAHA

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:17 am
by Mega.EXE
Myoti wrote:Sigma Star Saga for GBA is the first thing that comes to mind, mostly due to it's more sci-fi nature. The Megaman Battle Network series doesn't technically have any either, and I think Wild Arms is exempt as well (though I haven't played).


Actually, yes, I was thinking the same thing.


I second Mega Man Battle Network! Great games.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:42 pm
by Tommy
Mario RPGs......

Megaman X Command Comission....

ect, ect.

Kkun, I also find that funny but people can get offended by magic and not racial slurs.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:54 pm
by Mr. SmartyPants
Okay guys, let's cut out with the Boondock-bashing okay? Let's not point stuff out like that. He wants to avoid magic in RPGs, that's fine. He likes the Boondocks, okay that's fine too. Maybe he's somebody that relates to the show.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:24 pm
by Nate
Wild ARMs has magic.

Mega Man X Command Mission is a good, solid RPG with no magic. Other than that and the Battle Network series you're not gonna find an RPG that doesn't have magic in it.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:40 pm
by Tommy
Nate, the Mario RPGs lack magic.

And I already said Megaman X Command Mission.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:42 pm
by Nate
Tom Dincht wrote:Nate, the Mario RPGs lack magic.

Kamek is a Magikoopa. Mario and Luigi shoot fireballs and lightning.

Yes, the Mario RPGs have magic.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:59 pm
by Tommy
kaemmerite wrote:Kamek is a Magikoopa.


I don't know what the means but it's going in my sig. Saying that out loud gave me a good laugh.

Anyways, which stem of Mario games is this? I was thinking of the Paper Ones specifically. I don't recall those ones having magic.

If you're talking about Super Star Saga and/or Partners in Time, I just would like to point out I highly disliked those games enough to progress to the point where you learn magic.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:02 pm
by Radical Dreamer
Tom Dincht wrote:Anyways, which stem of Mario games is this? I was thinking of the Paper Ones specifically. I don't recall those ones having magic.


No, those had magic, too. Remember Kammy Koopa? Also, I guess some of the Stars' attacks could be considered magical in nature.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:03 pm
by Bobtheduck
Tom... You refer to the Mario RPG series without including... Mario RPG (SNES)

I have no response to that... Except... Nope, no response...

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:04 pm
by Nate
Tom Dincht wrote:I don't know what the means but it's going in my sig.

Um...Kamek is a Magikoopa?

A Magikoopa (カ]I was thinking of the Paper Ones specifically. I don't recall those ones having magic.[/QUOTE]
The first game involves collecting talking stars, which goes into the magical. The second is rife with magic, involving a door with a magical seal to imprison a great evil. The Mario games are by their nature full of magic, so they would be disqualified.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:13 pm
by Photosoph
The only other thing I can think of would be perhaps that turn-based, tactical combat games might be something you'd enjoy. I know they're not RPGs, but you can get some of these (or at least two that I know of: Advance Wars and its sequel) with as far as I can tell, don't contain any magic. They're not RPGs, but perhaps you might enjoy the tactical, turn-based combat genre.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:32 pm
by jayquam
Kkun wrote:Can I just point out the hilarity that someone is concerned about magic in an RPG but is quoting the Boondocks in their signature?

Is that funny to anyone else? Anyone? Oh, it must just be me.

HEY,the boondocks is good reading,as long as you dont watch the show.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:32 pm
by Steve Racer
There's plenty of Sci Fi RPGs like Paranoia and some Palladium universes.

If you are interested, I did write an article about how it is okay for Christians to play D&D, here it is:

Christians Playing D&D

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:35 pm
by jayquam
thanks all

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:20 pm
by Bobtheduck
Steve Racer wrote:There's plenty of Sci Fi RPGs like Paranoia and some Palladium universes.

If you are interested, I did write an article about how it is okay for Christians to play D&D, here it is:

Christians Playing D&D


The thing about the Bible "borrowing" demons from other religions is, um... No good... Sort of a black mark on what was turning into a good article... What's the point of believing in a religion you believe was formed and borrowed from other religions...

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:13 pm
by uc pseudonym
That's an issue we probably shouldn't discuss in detail, as I can't imagine it not getting into difficult theological water.

kaemmerite wrote:The Mario games are by their nature full of magic, so they would be disqualified.

However, I think they might qualify under certain circumstances. In most of the games (the excellent Seven Stars excepted) the player never uses magic, just physical techniques. Some people who object to the use of magic in games don't mind if the villains use it.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:10 pm
by Omega Amen
If you have an Xbox 360, I suggest you wait until Mass Effect comes out next year. That is a Sci-Fi RPG made by Bioware (fantastic RPG developers). From what I have seen so far, it is pure Sci-Fi with space and aliens but no magic.

It does use a First-Person Shooter gameplay mechanic, which is atypical for RPGs. That mechanic may or may not appeal to you.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:51 pm
by jon_jinn
Pokemon...XD (i don't think it's magic but you guys might)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:33 am
by Myoti
However, I think they might qualify under certain circumstances. In most of the games (the excellent Seven Stars excepted) the player never uses magic, just physical techniques. Some people who object to the use of magic in games don't mind if the villains use it.

Except that they use "magic" in everyone of the games.
Paper Mario? "Magic" Star attacks and magical characters. Mario and Luigi? Fire and lightning hand attacks.

Of course, it's not as though these were meant to be "occultic" in nature or the like, but "magic" is there (in pretty much every Mario game in general).

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:29 am
by Tommy
Bobtheduck wrote:Tom... You refer to the Mario RPG series without including... Mario RPG (SNES)

I have no response to that... Except... Nope, no response...


Well, that has magic, doesn't it?

I've played it and I know by far it's the best one but I knew beforehand it had magic.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:06 pm
by uc pseudonym
It was just that you referred to the category as if the best game in it didn't exist. Presumably all is well with your clarification.

Myoti wrote:Except that they use "magic" in everyone of the games.
Paper Mario? "Magic" Star attacks and magical characters. Mario and Luigi? Fire and lightning hand attacks.

Of course, it's not as though these were meant to be "occultic" in nature or the like, but "magic" is there (in pretty much every Mario game in general).

Amazing what slips the mind in time. I completely forgot about the Hand attacks from Mario and Luigi (likely because I wasn't fond of them). As for the Paper Mario Stars, those strike me as non-traditional enough that some people might not be bothered by them. Fairly obviously that varies from person to person.

And you could just play without using the magic, if that soothes your conscience...

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:09 pm
by Rocketshipper
The Xenogears and Xenosaga games don't have magic. All of the "magical" type atacks used by characters are actually caused by nanomachines or something like that.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:45 pm
by Ryupower
wellll.....games like Maplestory have little magic in them, and that only by wizards and stuff....

A few (free even) MMORPG's. That's all I can think of. There was one about Pirates I saw the other day....I guess that won't have magic-
I used to be very strict of such things, but Maplestory was OK IMO, because magic isn't a requirement. And they don't have these magic spell things for non-wizards...

Then there's also another MMORPG called "there" which doesn't have levels tho, it's purely social...sorta like the "sims" mmorpg